WTB 1550 TP for 1.750k

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*NEW* --- Buying 11000TP - 22 LDS + 1.4m (= 8m) HIGHEST PLAT/$ RATE IN ALL FORUM! Thats 133k per 1$ (133.3k/$)!!!
PS: that 11kTP code can be bought for $60.00 if you already bought Menace of the Underdark!


$19.50 - 1550TP - 1800k (92.3K/$)
$29.00 - 2500TP - 3000k (103.4k/$)
$50.00 - 5000TP - 5500k (110.0k/$)


I can pay in Scrolls*, Shroud Materials**, other materials*** or platinum coins.


Avaible Scrolls*: None.

Shroud Materials**: 22LDS.


*Daily updated.
*** PM to check

Thx for reading!

PM me or mail Shyrius!

PS: I've already done 4 TP trades without any problem.

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[articwarrior]

isnt it against policy/rules to post in-game items for something of real-world value??

[Ninety]

TP don't have real world value.

[HungarianRhapsody]

isnt it against policy/rules to post in-game items for something of real-world value??

http://www.turbine.com/support/158/

Turbine Points. You may obtain "Turbine Points" from Turbine (or a third party authorized by Turbine) for use in connection with the Account. Turbine Points are a virtual currency which you may, at Turbine's discretion, exchange for virtual goods, services and attributes that can only be used in the Game. Turbine Points have no monetary value, and are not personal property. You have no rights in or to any Turbine Points whether associated with the Account or otherwise, and Turbine may delete Turbine Points from the Account for any reason, including without limitation your failure to comply with this Agreement. Turbine may restrict or terminate your ability to acquire or redeem Turbine Points at its sole discretion. The virtual goods, services and attributes offered by Turbine in exchange for Turbine Points may be discontinued, modified or removed from the Account by Turbine at any time in its sole and absolute discretion. Turbine may discontinue the Turbine Points program at any time, and Turbine has no obligation to continue making offers available for the redemption of Turbine Points. Turbine Points are non-transferable and non-exchangeable, and any purported transfer or exchange of Turbine Points with an entity other than Turbine is null and void. Turbine may restrict the award or use of Turbine Points based on your country of residence or other factors.

[Missing_Minds]

isnt it against policy/rules to post in-game items for something of real-world value??

The official answer is yes it is against policy, no matter what people post or try to self rules lawyer. Do I like that? Meh, its a game, I'm not going to be bent out of shape about it. But it has been stated, if you do not follow official policy, you are completely on your own.

Note the sentence AFTER what HR quoted, that is where the power lies. The first line is primarily for the IRS I think that way there are no taxes to be held accountable for other than maybe sales and/or entertainment tax.

"You have no rights in or to any Turbine Points whether associated with the Account or otherwise, and Turbine may delete Turbine Points from the Account for any reason, including without limitation your failure to comply with this Agreement"

[HungarianRhapsody]

The official answer is yes it is against policy, no matter what people post or try to self rules lawyer. Do I like that? Meh, its a game, I'm not going to be bent out of shape about it. But it has been stated, if you do not follow official policy, you are completely on your own.

Note the sentence AFTER what HR quoted, that is where the power lies. The first line is primarily for the IRS I think that way there are no taxes to be held accountable for other than maybe sales and/or entertainment tax.

"You have no rights in or to any Turbine Points whether associated with the Account or otherwise, and Turbine may delete Turbine Points from the Account for any reason, including without limitation your failure to comply with this Agreement"

Could you link something that actually states outright that trading Turbine Points is against Turbine's Terms of Service or the Code of Conduct? I've looked, but I have not been able to find anywhere that anyone from Turbine explicitly says that it is allowed or that it is forbidden. It's almost as if they don't want us to know what their official policy is on this for some reason.

[Hikup]

Could you link something that actually states outright that trading Turbine Points is against Turbine's Terms of Service or the Code of Conduct? I've looked, but I have not been able to find anywhere that anyone from Turbine explicitly says that it is allowed or that it is forbidden. It's almost as if they don't want us to know what their official policy is on this for some reason.

They haven't, but it's basically caveat emptor, you give someone points and they can just take them and run with no repercussions from turbine. The general cash-grab / P2W attitude going (yes I know, they need to make money but there are better ways) leads me to think they support this behavior.

[Thrudh]

They don't seem to care, but they haven't really said anything one way or the other.

[Thrudh]

It is called "dev tracker" go back several months. Both Cordovan and Tolero commented. One post each. Where exactly I don't know any more.

Never saw those.

Also in game, GMs have banned people for such trades. I.E. plat for 10 taps and a guest pass to necro 4 is a prime example.

Really? You have proof of that?

If that's true, that makes me very angry they don't have an official policy on the matter.

[Missing_Minds]

Never saw those.

Really? You have proof of that?
If that's true, that makes me very angry they don't have an official policy on the matter.

They happened when points first became buy and giftable.

I has as much "proof" as any other player. GMs also tend to act and later get updated also, let alone are biased. The anti English speaking prejudicial banning on Gallanda is proof of that. For newer people, that happened years back.

[Hafeal]

"You have no rights in or to any Turbine Points whether associated with the Account or otherwise, and Turbine may delete Turbine Points from the Account for any reason, including without limitation your failure to comply with this Agreement"

The funny part is, based on this language, you get 'nothing' when you spend your real money for TPs. This is, of course, non-sensical. Certainly, this is just Turbine's attempt to have their legal cake and eat it to.

If you obtain 'no rights' in exchange for your cash when you buy Turbine Points, then there has not been an exchange for 'conisderation', essential for the contract between the parties to be perfected. As we know, however, you have received a 'right' from Turbine - the 'right' to use an amount of TPs in game in exchange for items in the DDO Store. That certainly is a 'right' you pay for - no matter what Turbine attempts to convey in their contract.

In essence, if Turbine tried to take your TPs away, without returning your cash, they would be opening themselves up to liability.

As for the question at hand, do you have a 'right' to trade in-game items for TPs? Well, Turbine has no real way to deny these transactions. The transfers for TPs occur outside the game as there is no 'in-game' way to do so - and this is beyond Turbine's control. And we know Turbine cannot monitor all trades of items between players. So how do they determine when these trades occur and police them? I don't see a way for them to do it. Really, all that Turbine can do is make a policy not allowing threads like this in their forum or trying to monitor the in-game trade channel. They have shown no inclination to do so to date.

[edit: MMinds say they have shown an inclination. If they have, it has been understated in my opinion.]

[NytCrawlr]

It is called "dev tracker" go back several months. Both Cordovan and Tolero commented. One post each. Where exactly I don't know any more.

Too bad those posts contradict one another and nothing has been stipulated sense.

Cordovan re-iterated selling in games items for real world money was a bannable offense, while Tolero posted afterwards that they are not responsible for any trades in regards to TP.

So, not a whole lot of solid proof, your examples aside.

[Thrudh]

Well if this thread gets deleted, that would be a semi-answer.

[Hikup]

Well if this thread gets deleted, that would be a semi-answer.

Would it? Either
A) covering up a shady transaction they prefer to ignore as it is profitable or
B) against ToS - deleted

The problem is, it would just be locked or deleted with no official response as usual.

[NytCrawlr]

Well if this thread gets deleted, that would be a semi-answer.

Hopefully they would delete the other ten or so threads in this forum that are doing the same thing if they want to stay consistent.

[Teharahma]

If I'm guessing this straight; if you buy lets say 20 red scales for 50 dollars, without trading for TP, then it's a bannable offense, however, if you make sure Turbine has profit in this trade they don't seem to mind. E.G. Buying TP from the gift cards, and using that as a bargaining method, rather than real money.

Classic greed.

[Missing_Minds]

Too bad those posts contradict one another and nothing has been stipulated sense.

Cordovan re-iterated selling in games items for real world money was a bannable offense, while Tolero posted afterwards that they are not responsible for any trades in regards to TP.

So, not a whole lot of solid proof, your examples aside.

They are not contradictory at all. You yourself have stated that they said it was bannable, and they they are not responcible for any trades made.

How is that sooooooo difficult to understand?

[Cam_Neely]

It is called "dev tracker" go back several months. Both Cordovan and Tolero commented. One post each. Where exactly I don't know any more.

Also in game, GMs have banned people for such trades. I.E. plat for 10 taps and a guest pass to necro 4 is a prime example.

I dont think this is true, please fine a post more clear then the one here (that i agree is not a great post, and does not clear much up). what I take from it is, go for it, but dont cry to us if they scam you

Just a reminder that we do not provide customer support for transactions between third parties. Transactions between players are at their own risk. If you manage to lose or not receive the promised points/goods we cannot help you.

[Missing_Minds]

I dont think this is true, please fine a post more clear then the one here (that i agree is not a great post, and does not clear much up). what I take from it is, go for it, but dont cry to us if they scam you

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...80#post4123180

If that isn't clear enough, it means to me that people want to break rules by side stepping the letter while ******** all over the spirit.

That is pretty much all I have left to say on this topic.