After enhancement update... Dwarven Stalwart lich?

[Opensezame]

thinking about a dwarven stalwart lich... easy enough to get 44con and 44 int?(with just ship buffs)
the 20% extra hp's would put you somewhere in the 700hp+ range

with the racial prestige this would possibly make this toon awesome

[sephiroth1084]

I'd rather the better DCs from going Human or Drow, better Spell Pen and SP from going elf.

[unbongwah]

with the racial prestige this would possibly make this toon awesome

That's a big "if" - we've been waiting for more racial PrEs for years now. Heck, I think Turbine announced them even before the switch to F2P. I wouldn't hold my breath - or more to the point make a build - in anticipation of them coming out anytime soon.

[Cyr]

That's a big "if" - we've been waiting for more racial PrEs for years now. Heck, I think Turbine announced them even before the switch to F2P. I wouldn't hold my breath - or more to the point make a build - in anticipation of them coming out anytime soon.

You miss the massive thread about this very subject?

[voodoogroves]

Halfling Pale Master Assassin

[unbongwah]

You miss the massive thread about this very subject?

Gosh, you mean this topic has come up before in the years since the racial PrEs were first announced? I had no idea!

[korsat]

would be awesome 3 ideas come to my mind: pure dwarf 20 defender or 18/2 rogue for intimidate skill and some sneak attack.

If we will have epic levels also wf 23wiz/2monk or dwarf 23wiz/2rogue! 44 int, 44 con and 38 strenght on a 36pb!

[Cyr]

Gosh, you mean this topic has come up before in the years since the racial PrEs were first announced? I had no idea!

No I would be talking about the massive "Let's Talk: Enhancements" thread that Madfloyd posted in which they announced they were attempting to put out all the prestige classes as part of a massive overhaul of the enhancement system.

[krogyy]

i am not so sure...
you will need to spend ap into mostly useless (for a wizard) stuff to get the defender pre.

besides, why dwarf? wf will have it too and are a superior choice even for a PM.

[Entelech]

The devil is definitely going to be in the details, since nobody knows what abilities the Dwarven Defender will grant, what the new enhancement system MadFloyd is promising (threatening?) will look like, or when it might go live.

As it stands, there are Pale Masters out there who use undead form to tank effectively, although often with significant multiclassing. This isn't a new or revolutionary concept.

[AylinIsAwesome]

I'd think it'd be better with Warforged. Unless they've changed it since I read the thread, WF also gets SD as the racial PrE, and can be healed by the Wizard repair spells on top of it.

Edit: Nevermind, thought it said Archmage for some reason.

[grodon9999]

I'm hoping these absurdly OP combos be made unfeasible when this actually goes live.

[Havok.cry]

I am hoping to have a 20monk human ninjalich... but I suspect my case will forever remain wishful thinking.

[AylinIsAwesome]

I'm hoping these absurdly OP combos be made unfeasible when this actually goes live.

I'm betting that the AP costs would be too high for it to really be worth it.