Epic Midnight Greetings

[karl_k0ch]

Does anyone of the Rogue players have an estimate on how reliable the "Improved Deception" property is to ensure SA damage?

In particular: Can an EMG be a substitute for a Rad2 Rapier/Scimi/Kuri?

[TheDearLeader]

Strictly anecdotal, but I don't "feel" like it happens often enough.

And even if it did, the blindless allows for a dramatically reduced mob AC (which is nice when paired with SA to-hit), and 50% miss chance.

Although perhaps the U13 Necklace, and the fact that it bestows Improved Deception, may be enough.

[DragonTroy]

Note: it's been a while since i use mine and memories fade, im in the middle of taking a break from being in the middle of a TR.

that said, when my rogue used one in each hand, it did proc quite frequently. with haste i'd probably guess i saw a proc in under 5 seconds of swinging on something i had aggro on. likely 4-7 or so swings. i think when the change 1st came out people were saying it had about a 10% proc rate, though i don't have a link or anything to prove that.

as to the rad II question, i would say it is not a replacement compared to a rad II rapier, as that has a quite high crit range, and therefore a quite high proc rate (obviously). i would probably place it near the proc rate of a weapon with the crit range of a khopesh. i say that mainly because i've got a khopesh rogue, and felt like it was about the same amount of time till i didn't have to worry about me having aggro.

[destiny4405]

Iirc, someone posted that imp deception had a save. If that's true, emg can't compare to radII.

[unbongwah]

Anyone pair an EMG with Rad2 kukri?

[voodoogroves]

Iirc, someone posted that imp deception had a save. If that's true, emg can't compare to radII.

Deception works on named mobs who can't be blinded

[Tuney]

Overall... Blindess trumps Deception. If only because Blindness causes nicities for you and the group. Removes Dex based AC , 50% miss chance. Only time Blindness loses is basicaly vs blind immuned mobs which tend to have 'tanks' or not able to be sneak attacked anyways.