34 pt WF AM WIZ Build need advice

[mikeness]

Just looking for advice. Was going for more dcs for enchant spells at end game here.

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Mikaiaa 
Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(20 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 220
Spell Points: 1985 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 6
Will: 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             14                 16                   16
Dexterity             8                 10                   10
Constitution         18                 20                   22
Intelligence         18                 25                   30
Wisdom                6                  8                    8
Charisma              8                 10                   10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               1                 11.5                 11.5
Bluff                -1                  0                    0
Concentration         8                 29                   33
Diplomacy             1                 11.5                 11.5
Disable Device        n/a              n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                 11.5                 11.5
Heal                 -2                 -1                   -1
Hide                 -1                  0                    0
Intimidate           -1                  0                    0
Jump                  4                 14.5                 14.5
Listen               -2                 -1                   -1
Move Silently        -1                  0                    0
Open Lock            n/a                n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                n/a                   n/a
Repair                4                 10                   10
Search                4                 21.5                 21.5
Spot                 -2                 -1                   -1
Swim                  2                  7                    7
Tumble                1                  2                    2
Use Magic Device      1                 11.5                 11.5

Level 1 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Necromancy
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Composite Plating
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Inscribe Scroll
Feat: (Automatic) Light Fortification
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Club
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Dagger
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Heavy Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Light Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Quarterstaff
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Throwing Dagger
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Unarmed
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Warforged Immunities
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Sonic Blast
Spell (1): Burning Hands
Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
Spell (1): Niac's Cold Ray
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation I
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I


Level 2 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Spell (1): Repair Light Damage
Spell (1): Mage Armor
Enhancement: Force Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Warforged Inscribed Armor I


Level 3 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Initiate
Spell (1): Magic Missile
Spell (2): Repair Moderate Damage
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Kinetic Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I


Level 4 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (2): Web
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Deadly Kinetics I
Enhancement: Force Manipulation II


Level 5 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness
Spell (3): Haste
Spell (3): Chain Missiles
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II


Level 6 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Spell (3): Rage
Spell (3): Repair Serious Damage
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage I


Level 7 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (4): Wall of Fire
Spell (4): Force Missiles
Enhancement: Force Manipulation III


Level 8 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (4): Dimension Door
Spell (3): Halt Undead
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 9 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment
Spell (5): Teleport
Spell (5): Hold Monster
Enhancement: Force Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage II
Enhancement: Archmage Spell Mastery I: Enchantment


Level 10 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Empower Spell
Spell (5): Cloudkill
Spell (4): Phantasmal Killer
Enhancement: Force Manipulation V
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration II


Level 11 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (6): Circle of Death
Spell (6): Reconstruct
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III


Level 12 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
Spell (6): Mass Suggestion
Spell (6): Greater Heroism
Enhancement: Improved Concentration IV
Enhancement: Force Manipulation VI
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage III
Enhancement: Archmage Secondary Spell Mastery I: Necromancy


Level 13 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (7): Otto's Sphere of Dancing
Spell (7): Finger of Death
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II


Level 14 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (7): Mass Hold Person
Spell (7): Mass Invisibility


Level 15 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell
Spell (8): Mass Charm Monster
Spell (8): Otto's Irresistible Dance
Enhancement: Force Manipulation VII
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage IV


Level 16 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+1.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (8): Polar Ray
Spell (7): Mass Protection From Elements
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar IV


Level 17 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Swim (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (9): Mass Hold Monster
Spell (9): Wail of the Banshee
Enhancement: Reconstructive Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery III


Level 18 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Swim (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy
Spell (9): Power Word: Kill
Spell (9): Energy Drain
Enhancement: Mighty Reconstruction I
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage V


Level 19 (Wizard)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Swim (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (9): Meteor Swarm
Spell (7): Greater Teleport
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration III


Level 20 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Swim (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
Spell (8): Trap the Soul
Spell (7): Banishment
Enhancement: Wizard Master of Magic
Enhancement: Kinetic Spellcasting II
Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Archmage Spell Mastery II: Enchantment

[Dwarfo]

Just by looking at your HP i see you need toughness. Get it. Now. A dead wizzie at endgame contributes nothing to the group.

[Candela90]

Just by looking at your HP i see you need toughness. Get it. Now. A dead wizzie at endgame contributes nothing to the group.

Not really right. It should be ok.

Constitution
18
+2 tome
+2ship
+6 - 10 item (+7 item +3 exceptional)
____________________
28 - 32 con



80 hp wizzard base
10 dragonic (GH favor)
20 heroic
20 toughness slotted in epic slot or minos legend
30-40 Greater or Superior False Life
45 greensteel item
180 - 220 constitution mod
____________________
385 with basic gear
435 hp with better gear

+ wizzard can be raged all time
+20 rage
405 -455 hp.

+ wizzard dont really gets any penalty for using yugo hp potions
+40hp if needed
445-495 hp when needed.

So average 450 hp.

Sure, its not amazing, but also not really squishy. Especially with quickened reconstruct,
Still it need gear to have this 450 hp.

Tho i would probably exchange extend or empower for toughness.
Extend is fine for haste.rage.displace, but for me its ****ing off. Always coming into quest and there is "who has extend buffs party". So ill probably throw it out, to no spend half of mine play-time on buffing.
Empower is great but honestly on wizzard i find myself quickly lacking of mana if i use it.
So OP choise.


BTW to OP.... dont paste build in that way.
All these spells, automatically granted feats, and skills every level make it hard to read it.
Casue when u check build u mostly check choosen feats, stats, ending enhancements and lvl ups,


Also i have no idea for what u need scroll mastery at WF wizzy.

[mikeness]

this is with toughness. Doesn't look like much of a difference with toughness

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Mikaiaa 
Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(20 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 242
Spell Points: 1985 
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 6
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    16
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         18                    22
Intelligence         18                    30
Wisdom                6                     8
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               1                    11.5
Bluff                -1                     0
Concentration         8                    33
Diplomacy             1                    11.5
Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
Haggle               -1                    11.5
Heal                 -2                    -1
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate           -1                     0
Jump                  4                    14.5
Listen               -2                    -1
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair                4                    10
Search                4                    21.5
Spot                 -2                    -1
Swim                  2                     7
Tumble                1                     2
Use Magic Device      1                    11.5

Level 1 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Necromancy
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation I
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I


Level 2 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Force Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Warforged Inscribed Armor I


Level 3 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Kinetic Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I


Level 4 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Deadly Kinetics I
Enhancement: Force Manipulation II


Level 5 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage I


Level 7 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Force Manipulation III


Level 8 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment
Enhancement: Force Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage II
Enhancement: Archmage Spell Mastery I: Enchantment


Level 10 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Empower Spell
Enhancement: Force Manipulation V
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration II


Level 11 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III


Level 12 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
Enhancement: Improved Concentration IV
Enhancement: Force Manipulation VI
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage III
Enhancement: Archmage Secondary Spell Mastery I: Necromancy


Level 13 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II


Level 14 (Wizard)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell
Enhancement: Force Manipulation VII
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage IV


Level 16 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar IV


Level 17 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Reconstructive Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand and Scroll Mastery III


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy
Enhancement: Mighty Reconstruction I
Enhancement: Wizard Archmage V


Level 19 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration III


Level 20 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
Enhancement: Wizard Master of Magic
Enhancement: Kinetic Spellcasting II
Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Archmage Spell Mastery II: Enchantment

[Candela90]

If u take toughness take also 2 racial enhyancements. Itll be 40 hp more all together.

[Dwarfo]

I'm just saying...most wizzies take toughness due to having ALOT of feats, and that 40 hp could easily come in handy, been in some situations where im at 10-20 hp in eChrono. Not needed, just giving my opinion.

[jortann]

Here is my build....


Enchanted Death
The goal is to have decent Necro and Enchantment DCs at end game.

Build Points
Strength 14
Dexterity 8
Constitution 18
Intelligence 18
Wisdom 6
Charisma 8

Feats
1. Toughness
1. Insightful Reflexes OR Extend OR Empower (Check out this thread here for a discussion on this... http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=332478
1. (human bonus - grab another of Insightful Reflexes OR Extend OR Empower)
3. Maximize
5. Mental Toughness
6. Spell Focus: Enchant
9. Greater Spell Focus: Enchant
10. Heighten
12. Spell Focus: Necro
15. Greater Spell Focus: Necro
15. Spell Penetration
18. Greater Spell Penetration
20. Quicken

Skill Points
You have lots so it doesn't really matter.... My preference...
Concentration, Jump, Balance, Spot, UMD, Diplo, Bluff

Enhancements
Make sure you you get the prereqs for your archmage prestige enhancements.

Take Archmage Spell Mastery I & II in either Necro or Enchantment
Take Archmage Secondary Mastery in the other
Take Spell Penetration

I would not waste enhancement points on SLAs... That is my take. Some people love them, but I feel it cuts into my spell point pool too much.

The rest is a balance between hitpoints and power.

I try to ramp up two schools. I love fire. Ice works well at end game. Electric and acid seem to have potential as well. There would be a good arguement to have Ice and Electric at end game because they both have good DoTs (Damage over Time spells - Eladers Electric Surge and Niacs Biting Cold).

Thats the basics...

[Munkenmo]

i'd swap extend for toughness at cap.
I'd also swap spell focus enchantment for spell focus conjuration.

Your feats mostly seem ok, i'd probably choose a different order when leveling, but overall it will end up ok.

3spell point webs from conjuration as your secondary school though imo offer more than 1dc to enchantment spells as a secondary school.