Run out of componets

[Raolin_Darksbane]

-1 for trolling, being disruptive and in general acting like you're 8 years old.

Everyone in a party would whine if the healer didn't bring scrolls to keep everyone alive. Or to chug pots on a long or difficult raid like eLoB.

But it's OK for you to run out of components because... what? You're not that important? You don't think you need to contribute? Because you're lazy and want people to carry you through a quest?

Get over yourselves and realize that when you run out of something, you're no longer contributing to the party as effectively as you can. Why waste a party slot on someone like that?

My point was simply that some of us apparently (some apparently not) realize that this IS A GAME. It's not the end of the world and in in the grand scheme of things (and the not so grand ones) it's not important. Seriously, I play this game to relax and enjoy myself. If I run out of components i laugh and will usually spend some TP to get some. Of course, I have the liberty of spending the points and not caring - some don't have that luxury so I don't expect it of them. I don't mind so it doesn't matter. If we wipe we wipe - oh well. It's not like I haven't wiped with elite groups before - It happens.

Don't get me wrong - your sentiments are nothing new - I too, used to treat this game like it was a job or a way of life instead of just a game. Thankfully, I got over that - over myself, and over people who still choose to behave that way. I would link the video about the kid whose mom took away his WoW subscription but frankly, im too lazy. -1 me or -100 me if it makes you feel like you accomplish something <shrug>. My pixelated heart will recover, im sure.

[Lifespawn]

My point was simply that some of us apparently (some apparently not) realize that this IS A GAME. It's not the end of the world and in in the grand scheme of things (and the not so grand ones) it's not important. Seriously, I play this game to relax and enjoy myself. If I run out of components i laugh and will usually spend some TP to get some. Of course, I have the liberty of spending the points and not caring - some don't have that luxury so I don't expect it of them. I don't mind so it doesn't matter. If we wipe we wipe - oh well. It's not like I haven't wiped with elite groups before - It happens.

Don't get me wrong - your sentiments are nothing new - I too, used to treat this game like it was a job or a way of life instead of just a game. Thankfully, I got over that - over myself, and over people who still choose to behave that way. I would link the video about the kid whose mom took away his WoW subscription but frankly, im too lazy. -1 me or -100 me if it makes you feel like you accomplish something <shrug>. My pixelated heart will recover, im sure.

just fyi that video was a hoax it was on tosh.0

[SEMPER]

I ran out once, and bought the components in the store. Why did I buy them? So my character could do it's job without causing issues for the rest of the raid.

This is the same thing as a tank forgetting curse pots, healers not having scrolls, melee forgetting pots. None of you find this acceptable, but running out of components somehow is?

The point is it isn't boot/squelch worthy / things happen get over it and move on

[Ilindith]

Moral of the story, better not forget to buy 10 pounds of bat poo before you go in a quest folks. Or you're gonna get kicked!

[redspecter23]

If nobody ever ran out of spell components, we wouldn't need spell components

Basically, stuff happens sometimes. Components are only there so we have to micromanage that part of our inventory and nothing more. By definition, we are expected to "forget" occasionally and find ourselves in tough spots, or else there would be no reason to have a physical component at all.

[Sigava]

-1 for trolling, being disruptive and in general acting like you're 8 years old.

Everyone in a party would whine if the healer didn't bring scrolls to keep everyone alive. Or to chug pots on a long or difficult raid like eLoB.

But it's OK for you to run out of components because... what? You're not that important? You don't think you need to contribute? Because you're lazy and want people to carry you through a quest?

Get over yourselves and realize that when you run out of something, you're no longer contributing to the party as effectively as you can. Why waste a party slot on someone like that?

My goodness, I consider myself something of a slave driver when leading a group, but everyone makes mistakes. The spell component system is 9 kinds of stupid. A favored soul who didn't take any heals or rezzes? Not contributing. A favored soul who won't ever drink a pot no matter what? Not contributing. A favored soul who's unwilling to buy heal or rez scrolls cause he's too cheap? Not contributing. But a favored soul who simply forgot or ran out? He made a mistake! Rogues run out of tools. Healers run out of scrolls. Many spellcasters run out of components. People forget to repair their gear. Melee run out of curse/healing/haste potions. People forget to pick up the quest before entering. People forget to talk to the genie twice before entering ATDQ. People fall in the lava. People pull aggro on Suli. People forget to repair their sigil. People forget to get something out of the bank. People take 2 minutes to solve a puzzle rather than 20 seconds. People pull the wrong lever. People click the horn instead of the box. People get locked out. People forget their deathblock/deathward. People forget to park their hireling on passive.

These are all mistakes, silly, absent minded, careless mistakes. They shouldn't happen, but at some point in a player's career one or more of them are going to happen. We're not unthinking flawless automatons. I take my fun pretty seriously, more seriously than most, but for goodness sake, everyone makes some mistake some time.

[Munkenmo]

I ran out of hearts of hens once, on my first ever trip into wiz king with cryol.

we'd just finished tower one, with me webbing then firewalling everything with ease.

When i ran out, i had time to go to the store, buy a box of beers, head to cryol's place and drank with him whilst he solo'd the rest of the dungeon. (this was back when i didn't know which tower was which, got lost underground, good times)

Now I try to avoid hypocrisy when ever I can, so if you ever join my group and run out of components, well that sucks, but it's ok, I understand. You'd just better **** well show up with my box of beers though.


p.s. that day i made a new hot bar, and dragged my level 1-9 spell components, and stone skin components into it from my inventory. Now i know exactly how many components i've got left for each spell level.

[elricken]

It happens, helps if you put your components on a hotbar.. but nothing to get bent out of shape about.

[freekay]

My FvS ran out of L5 components once... whilst tanking eLOB.. fun times xD

[Plaidpooka]

You should be prepared to quest when you hit an LFM. If you're not then you darn well better make sure to teleport real quick like to get components/scrolls before the party starts to wonder where you are.

If you hop into the quest and say "oops I forgot X" then I'd tell you to buy it in the DDO store. If you refused then yup, you'd get the kick.

It's your job to ensure your character is prepared for a quest.

But squelching someone for a simple "oops, I forgot something, I'm willing to go get it and then rez you dead folks." I think OP was very kind to be willing to help out a wiped party that still had it's LFM up. If the party had decided they just wanted to release and not bother, they could have said so. But instead, willing to help OP gets squelched. I agree with previous poster, sounds like they were mad and *hurt over wiping to me.

[Plaidpooka]

Everyone in a party would whine if the healer didn't bring scrolls to keep everyone alive. Or to chug pots on a long or difficult raid like eLoB.

But it's OK for you to run out of components because... what? You're not that important? You don't think you need to contribute? Because you're lazy and want people to carry you through a quest?

Really? One slip of memory makes one an egotistical, uncontributing, lazy piker? This sort of response migh make sense if OP came in here saying "Stupid group expected me to waste my plat rezzing a bunch of dead losers," but they didn't. OP was more than willing to spend the plat and help the wiped party if they could wait a measley couple minutes. OP also wrote a politely worded post. And you're the one neg repping others for acting troll-like.

[CheeseMilk]

I carry 10 +5 Thieves' Tools on each of my non-rogue toons.

Should I start carrying a small stack each of Mushroom Powders and Crystal Cones too?

[mullmachine]

You should have just acted ignorant and said "What are you talking about??? FVS can't heal or raise the dead"

[dragon2fire]

You should have just acted ignorant and said "What are you talking about??? FVS can't heal or raise the dead"

exactly fvs are not healers we all know this

[Kirris]

Running out of components earns many noob points, so does running out of scrolls! while I try to keep stocked on these things I do run out of either on occasion, no big deal, the people I run with are competent and any 1 of us can run out and the quest will still complete no worries!

I sure as heck wouldn't buy anything from the DDO store just to complete a quest except in really special circumstances, normal or even leet amrath certainly arn't worthy of it! maybe an almost complete eLoB... maybe. Don't like it? please /squelch my alts so you don't have to group with me

Kirris.

[HungarianRhapsody]

You should be prepared to quest when you hit an LFM. If you're not then you darn well better make sure to teleport real quick like to get components/scrolls before the party starts to wonder where you are.

If you hop into the quest and say "oops I forgot X" then I'd tell you to buy it in the DDO store. If you refused then yup, you'd get the kick.

It's your job to ensure your character is prepared for a quest.

It is every caster's responsibility to make sure that they have enough spell components to cast their spells in a quest, but it's also the rest of the party's responsibility to not get slaughtered while you're on your way to hop in.

I'm entirely willing to forgive other people their occasional boneheaded moves as I hope that they'll forgive mine.

[sweez]

If you hop into the quest and say "oops I forgot X" then I'd tell you to buy it in the DDO store.

Are you a Turbine marketing agent?

[KillEveryone]

We are all human and make mistakes.

Just don't be a noob like me and run out again, even after putting them on a hot bar to keep track of them, and still run out, several times.

Happens.

Move on.

Squelch worthy? No.

[BoBo2020]

I wouldn't tell people to buy something in the DDO store, but I would be annoyed that they hit an LFM, ran or teleported to the quest, entered the quest, and then decided to check and see if they have everything they need in order to actually do the quest.

If someone jumps in to save your butt... you say thank you.
If they make an error - you say thank you for trying.
Getting angry over a small error made by someone who joined late just to help you is irrational and immature.

[Melcena]

This is why I am the veteran spokesman of eschew material.