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    So i hit a lfm the other night. Was for normal bastion of power. I figure sure no prob go in on my fvs solo a maralith no big deal i do this all the time. I like helping people get flagged for tod. I get in and the party has gotten itself killed. I then realize i am out of holy water and raise dead scrolls. I only carry Resurrection on my fvs i have limited spell slots and that plus scroll is usually enough. I tell the leader this on realizing it and think ok i will go get some holy water no big deal. I go to hit the reform and find that i have been squelched. Now honestly i really don't care much but i do find it amusing that some one would black list me over what is basically not paying attention to spell components. I should mention they where not far in the quest at all.

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    You should be prepared to quest when you hit an LFM. If you're not then you darn well better make sure to teleport real quick like to get components/scrolls before the party starts to wonder where you are.

    If you hop into the quest and say "oops I forgot X" then I'd tell you to buy it in the DDO store. If you refused then yup, you'd get the kick.

    It's your job to ensure your character is prepared for a quest.

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    Hmmm wow, what no one has ever run out of spell components before? I carry the same thing on my fvs, one spell of resurecction, and then I carry scrolls of raise dead and resurrection. If I was the leader, I would have asked you if it was not too much trouble to buy it from the ddo store, the components, and if not then when we reformed I would have expected you to grab the spell comps from the vendor right there in Amrath by the bank. To squelch you for it? Sounds like someone was ****ed from a wipe, and if their lil ego couldnt handle that so they had to squelch you, guess who's the lucky one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozen_Black_Roses View Post
    Hmmm wow, what no one has ever run out of spell components before? I carry the same thing on my fvs, one spell of resurecction, and then I carry scrolls of raise dead and resurrection. If I was the leader, I would have asked you if it was not too much trouble to buy it from the ddo store, the components, and if not then when we reformed I would have expected you to grab the spell comps from the vendor right there in Amrath by the bank. To squelch you for it? Sounds like someone was ****ed from a wipe, and if their lil ego couldnt handle that so they had to squelch you, guess who's the lucky one?
    My thoughts exactly. He did me a favor i don't want to run with some one like that. I even logged onto a alt and sent him a complete list of my toons i don't want to run with that guy its a major overreaction. Its just a game folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsEricka View Post
    You should be prepared to quest when you hit an LFM. If you're not then you darn well better make sure to teleport real quick like to get components/scrolls before the party starts to wonder where you are.

    If you hop into the quest and say "oops I forgot X" then I'd tell you to buy it in the DDO store. If you refused then yup, you'd get the kick.

    It's your job to ensure your character is prepared for a quest.
    And people wonder why its hard to find a healer on sarlona. Ok i should of had my stuff together but you know what i did not make them charge off and get them selves killed. Nor did i make them start a amrath quest with out heals. ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon2fire View Post
    And people wonder why its hard to find a healer on sarlona. Ok i should of had my stuff together but you know what i did not make them charge off and get them selves killed. Nor did i make them start a amrath quest with out heals. ^^
    This may sound extreme, but maybe you should do the old-skool thing and drag your spell components to a visible hotbar (or at least the important ones). Or spend a ton of $$$ on omnispell components

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsEricka View Post
    You should be prepared to quest when you hit an LFM. If you're not then you darn well better make sure to teleport real quick like to get components/scrolls before the party starts to wonder where you are.

    If you hop into the quest and say "oops I forgot X" then I'd tell you to buy it in the DDO store. If you refused then yup, you'd get the kick.

    It's your job to ensure your character is prepared for a quest.
    You would also not ALREADY BE DEAD in the quest. Plus, SPELL COMPONENTS. I mean, seriously, they run out.

    Personally, I almost always pre ship buff, take the quest and get to the area before I join a PUG LFM, especially when it's almost full, and ALWAYS when it says IP, so I get you. But at the same time, SPELL COMPONENTS. They run out. I buy them in stacks of 1000 and never pay attention until they run out. It's just that simple. Of course, except for mushrooms and powdered saffron, it's usually not an issue. Man, Divine Punishment takes a toll!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdr View Post
    This may sound extreme, but maybe you should do the old-skool thing and drag your spell components to a visible hotbar (or at least the important ones). Or spend a ton of $$$ on omnispell components
    So... are the omni spell components already out?!?!?! (From my above post I obviously didn't think so, and will have to edit it!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by countfitz View Post
    So... are the omni spell components already out?!?!?! (From my above post I obviously didn't think so, and will have to edit it!)
    U13 is Very Soon, that's when they're released. And you can buy normal spell components already as mentioned above.

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    Yeah, MAYBE someone could be expected to have everything ready to quest down to the smallest detail. (I myself occasionally run out of spell components in the middle of a run. **** you Mushroom Powder and Saffron!) But when it comes to a group that is clearly having problems with the quest then they really shouldn't have a problem getting help anywhere they can get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsEricka View Post
    You should be prepared to quest when you hit an LFM. If you're not then you darn well better make sure to teleport real quick like to get components/scrolls before the party starts to wonder where you are.

    If you hop into the quest and say "oops I forgot X" then I'd tell you to buy it in the DDO store. If you refused then yup, you'd get the kick.

    It's your job to ensure your character is prepared for a quest.
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    CuZ tHiZ mMo StUfF iZ sEeRiUzBiZnIzZ!!!

    Everyone in a party would whine if the healer didn't bring scrolls to keep everyone alive. Or to chug pots on a long or difficult raid like eLoB.

    But it's OK for you to run out of components because... what? You're not that important? You don't think you need to contribute? Because you're lazy and want people to carry you through a quest?

    Get over yourselves and realize that when you run out of something, you're no longer contributing to the party as effectively as you can. Why waste a party slot on someone like that?
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    just re-roll , it's all overrated ok

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    i always have my spell comp in my last bag and check them every time i log in a char that uses them this could have something to do with the fact that i can't carry 1000 of each because it's too heavy with all the other **** i have to carry but it's a good habit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsEricka View Post
    You should be prepared to quest when you hit an LFM. If you're not then you darn well better make sure to teleport real quick like to get components/scrolls before the party starts to wonder where you are.

    If you hop into the quest and say "oops I forgot X" then I'd tell you to buy it in the DDO store. If you refused then yup, you'd get the kick.

    It's your job to ensure your character is prepared for a quest.
    This is just horrible / things happen you forget to check whatever It's no big deal ... just get them and come back / I'm sure it's never happened to you has it ??? get real and if you do buy them from the store good for you but I'm not wasting TP on something so stupid as components
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    I ran out once, and bought the components in the store. Why did I buy them? So my character could do it's job without causing issues for the rest of the raid.

    This is the same thing as a tank forgetting curse pots, healers not having scrolls, melee forgetting pots. None of you find this acceptable, but running out of components somehow is?

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    You guys are all funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsEricka View Post
    I ran out once, and bought the components in the store. Why did I buy them? So my character could do it's job without causing issues for the rest of the raid.

    This is the same thing as a tank forgetting curse pots, healers not having scrolls, melee forgetting pots. None of you find this acceptable, but running out of components somehow is?
    None of it is good. Any prepared toon would check before they start a raid/quest/etc. The line seems to be that I don't think this meets sufficient criteria to boot/squelch. Do you know why? It happens. I have run out of components in quests, and yes I bought them in the ddo store. Last week it happened I ran out of spell comps for lvl V spells (hello divine punishment) and luckily there were two other cleric/fvs with me and passed some to me to get through the elite rit sac run. If they were not there I just wouldnt have cast the spell, but if it was something more critical, such as a difficult raid, I would have gotten them from the ddo store.

    Yesterday, I was on my fvs in a elite vod, and one of the melees did not have curse pots and yep you guessed it kept getting cursed and had nothing to do for it. Did it **** me off? Slightly. But in a pug, and from his guild, I am not surprised. Would I hit accept if this person hit my group in the future (I did not have the star yesterday), for vod? Probably not as I have had nothing but bad experiences from this guild, or I would ensure they had curse potions as otherwise they did what they had to do, and aside from getting cursed did not take stupid dmg and fought where he should fight. Now, another person in the group, a wizard whose primary assignment was to recon the wf tank, did not have any scrolls on him, ran out of mana about half time, and we had to rearrange who was healing who, and then they had the gall to ask for a potion to reimburse themselves at the end of the raid. Just as equally unprepared, and even more so could have cost the raid as they were in a critical role. Again, yes he sure as hell should have been better prepared, and if I had the star would have been screened better, but guess what, I am not surprised, nor was I that upset to squelch. The rest of us compensated, took up the slack, and ensured a successful run. Because that is what I expect, some will be carried, and I know those that I run with are prepared if someone else doesn't fulfill their role. The line of acceptability depends on the risk.

    We would all like folks to be more self sufficient, prepared, etc. But boot and squelch? No, not called for in this case. Plus, are we forgetting it was Bastion, if the group went ahead and zerged without the healer even being there, they have to deal with the mess they made, oh well.

    What would qualify for me to boot? If he was asked specifically before joining did he have and he came in anyways, or after the wipe and reailzing he did not have the comps, still returned to the quest w/o having picked up the comps. Did he take his sweet time getting to the quest after joining, possibly depending on my mood. Also surely his attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsEricka View Post
    I ran out once, and bought the components in the store. Why did I buy them? So my character could do it's job without causing issues for the rest of the raid.

    This is the same thing as a tank forgetting curse pots, healers not having scrolls, melee forgetting pots. None of you find this acceptable, but running out of components somehow is?
    You're in a raid and didn't just ask the other divine if they had some to spare? I never buy components from the guild vendors just for that reason.


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