Artificer ToD rings.. Tired of being screwed

[Grandesa]

OK, I have done ToD 9 times on my artificer since his TR, just came out of one.. AND 6 out of 9 times, I GET SCREWED on the rings. Each time there was a viable ring that closest matched the needs of an artificer, some DA decides he/she wants it for a single stat or ability. Ya want perfect examples of how really ****ed off I am?

Run 1 - My First time in since TR Whisper ring dropped, guess what class rolled and took it? a Barbarian, why you ask? for the sneak attack! and he was one of the Tanks!

Run 2 - skunk chest

Run 3 - Ring of Deftness. what class took it? a Wizard! why? only for the +1 exceptional int. Thats It? really? ***??? you can craft that with epic dungeon tokens!

Run 4 - Gilvaenor's Ring. Agian Screwed by a useless class taking it. Fighter! why? for reflex saves. (it's a RANGED ring set! not melee!)

Run 5 - Skunked yet again

Run 7 - Nyoko's Band - Again screwed! by the Main Tank of all characters! Why? Of all things! the dumb invis. clicky!

Run 6 - Band of Siberys - Who took this ring? A freaking Rogue! why? only for the +6 Con!! why am i ****ed bout this one?? I have stat'd my Artificer for Range Tanking MA, With gear. I have full use of this set.. I even tried to advise this person that he could easily buy or craft something that simple. Still got screwed.

Run 8 - Skunked

Run 9 - Rahkir's Ring - FvS took it! Why? for the 0.5 spell crit only!!!! Why am I really ****ed? he alrdy has an Archmage Item and superior arcane lore and he most likely could've crafted the spell critability! YEAH 7 points of Intelligence wasted because of 0.5 crit chance.

SO yeah I'm REALLY sick and tired of getting shafted every single time i have done this raid, It's to this point that I am making this post. And I already know any and almost every guaranteed time I run this raid (which I'm to the point of not bothering with it because of DA people w/o any clue) I'm not going to get an extremely viable ring that drops in the chest because of some DA reason or another.

PLEASE make us a ToD set! Or even better yet, Put class use only on the Rings! Artificers don't have a chance in H#LL of getting ToD rings from there Becuz of really DA people who can practically either buy or craft that single dumb thing they want from a ring that will most likely get used for a couple weeks then rot away in their bank!!!!

Dev's I know this post is not the kindest posted you've read in a LONG time, but I speak for all artificers and other classes that do NOT have the luxury of having class based ring's in the ToD raid. It really makes me and many other players ****ed off, hurt, or even mad enough that run this raid over, and over, and over again and get dealt the same crappy stained card everytime because some player decides he wants a ring that almost totally useless except for 1 reason, stat, or ability. Which now can easily be either crafted, Epic crafted, hell even found in random junk chests...

WE BEG of you to please, please, please make the artificer class, upcoming druid class (yeah they'll get shafted too in ToD), and any other class/PrE thats missing from this raid a ToD ring set PLEASE

[voodoogroves]

No more TOD sets.

More late-game options for other classes and more capability to add in the same bonuses in other places.

New content please.

[TheDearLeader]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

[Blank_Zero]

I'm coming up on 80 ToDs on my main toon. I still don't have my Kyoshos ring, and it is quite literally , the last piece of DPS gear that I need.

Instead of posting a wall of text about how unfair it is, why not keep running ToD for another chance at the rings you want? Then at 20, you get a shortlist of rings and maybe even a +4 tome! That's exciting, right?

[djl]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

Haha, +1

No but I agree it's frustrating to have classes roll on rings that could much better benefit a different class (heard horror stories of casters rolling on Encrusted with barbs in the party) but you aren't entitled to anything that didn't pop in your name.




Besides, Artificers have so much to choose from when building their gear that you don't really need a ToD set to be good on one. Look into the Challenge rings-- they're very nice.

[Glenalth]

No more TOD sets.

More late-game options for other classes and more capability to add in the same bonuses in other places.

New content please.

I agree with the no more ToD part anway.

Split some of them off of that raid and take the ones that are yet to exist and stick them somewhere else.

[protokon]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

my thoughts exactly.

[Uchuujin-San]

only 9 runs?

coming up to 80 tods and still looking for my FvS's set item... oh wait... what set item? Like alot of caster based souls i want that set for one thing.. 0.5 crit multi. major arcane lore doesn't exist in the game.. and to my knowledge there isn't much out there with 0.5 crit multi.

and if you're interested i did over 80 tods for my barbs ring and am at about 60-80 on my currently TR'd toon still looking for the ravager ring...

most people looking for rings area after the set bonus... the stats are just an added bonus and often are counted into final gearing to even out something, but its that extra 2 damage, or 0.5 crit milti. that people are really after.

while i can understand your frustration in not being able to complete your final gear setup, that doesn't entitle you to something that is, in essence, someone elses. Just do what the majority of players looking for that ideal set does when they don't get it... wait 3 days and do it all over again.

BTW there's no invis clicky on the Nyoko's ring. or any clicky on any ring.

[Jbmat5656]

I've run TOD on the north side of 100 times in 3 lives.

I've seen the Gilvaneor ring drop once. A fighter took it, as he was going to TR to ranger. Since then, not seen one drop. No rings at my 5 different 20 runs anniversaries.

So I took it upon myself to find better rings. And I did. And will give away the G ring if it drops.

So very sorry in 9 runs you got hosed. Suck it up.

[freekay]

(Grrrr. Angry rant about loot that's not mine)

LOL umadbro?

[RedDragonScale]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

This.



+1 to you.

[Ovrad]

To the OP: Really? That upset after only 9 runs? Good lord mate, clearly you have not raided or ran epics a lot...

But seriously, ToD rings could use a change. It's even more relevant considering the upcoming Enhancements revamp because a lot more PrE (and new classes) should become accessible.


Suggestion: Replace all rings in ToD by class generic ones, with unlockable PrE!

What I mean by that is instead of having a Frenzied Berserker ring, a Ravager Ring, and an Occult Slayer ring, you only get a Barbarian Ring, which can be crafted into the old ones. Same for any other class, including FvS, Arti and Druids (eventually). You could then choose which PrE you unlock for it, using ingredients, probably small or medium shroud ingredients, to unlock the exceptional +1 stat and PrE bonus at the same time.


So in the end, for example, you'd have in the ToD chest:
Barbarian Ring : Strength +6, Prestigious Potential, Incredible Potential

Then (using let's say small shroud ingredients) unlock the prestige and it becomes:
Encrusted Ring: Strength +6, Exceptional Strength +1, Frenzied Berserker, Incredible Potential
or
Gnawed Ring: Strength +6, Exceptional Constitution +1, Occult Slayer, Incredible Potential
or
Ring of the Ravager: Strength +6, Exceptional Strength +1, Ravager, Incredible Potential


It would greatly help the incredibly low drop rates of specific rings, and allow for easy addition of new rings.

[NaturalHazard]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

that seems to be the case.............. I only count on what i pull in my chest getting a shot at other peoples loot is a bonus for me not a right.

[azrael4h]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

Pretty much...

OP, if it drops in someone else's name, it's not yours. It does not matter if you can use it "more" or not, if it drops in someone's name, then it is that persons. If they put it up for roll, they are being nice. If they take it, it's theirs anyway.

If you do not roll highest on an item that is put for roll, then tough. It belongs then to the high roller.

In either case, you are not being "screwed" either literally or figuratively. The item in question was never yours to begin with.

[NaturalHazard]

Haha, +1

No but I agree it's frustrating to have classes roll on rings that could much better benefit a different class (heard horror stories of casters rolling on Encrusted with barbs in the party) but you aren't entitled to anything that didn't pop in your name.

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Last week I pulled an encrusted ring on my ranger, I don't have one and it would of been useful for me vs certain mob types but I put it up for roll a wizard rolled on it, to give to his barbarian friend and even admited it in voice, a fighter won it and the barbarian cried.

and some people squelched me because i didnt just give it to the barb, squelched for putting loot up for roll? *** man!!!! they must of had the same attitude of the op.

[Pewf]

So my FvS shouldn't be aiming for Rahkir's Ring?

I always thought Major Arcane Lore looked very appealing.

[Oakianus]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

This post cannot get enough pos reps.

[Ungood]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

Pretty much. Yup

But underneath all frothing at the mouth loot rage, there was one good point.

Kinda cheesy of Turbine to put in a whole new class and not make a TOD set for them.

So dispute his brazen rantings, I am going to have to say /Signed for an Arti-ToD Set.

[Terebinthia]

This is a highly amusing thread.

That is all.

I've been lucky on my divines - after 17 runs my cleric has the three rings she wanted (and why yes, one of them was the Rakhir's, Major arcane lore with healing amp is nice when soloing), and my FvS had the two she wanted after 12. My ranger also got pretty lucky - pulled a Ravager and won a roll on the Kyosho's. I'm zen (!) about the time it will take to get Kyosho's on my monk though - hopefully there will be a wisdom ring that's trash to most folk poking around before then so at least I can get holy burst and the stats in the right place without beating out someone who can make use of the set bonus.

TOD is a lottery as it is. Please no more ring sets....

[Ziindarax]

OK, I have done ToD 9 times on my artificer since his TR, just came out of one.. AND 6 out of 9 times, I GET SCREWED on the rings. Each time there was a viable ring that closest matched the needs of an artificer, some DA decides he/she wants it for a single stat or ability. Ya want perfect examples of how really ****ed off I am?

Run 1 - My First time in since TR Whisper ring dropped, guess what class rolled and took it? a Barbarian, why you ask? for the sneak attack! and he was one of the Tanks!

Run 2 - skunk chest

Run 3 - Ring of Deftness. what class took it? a Wizard! why? only for the +1 exceptional int. Thats It? really? ***??? you can craft that with epic dungeon tokens!

Run 4 - Gilvaenor's Ring. Agian Screwed by a useless class taking it. Fighter! why? for reflex saves. (it's a RANGED ring set! not melee!)

Run 5 - Skunked yet again

Run 7 - Nyoko's Band - Again screwed! by the Main Tank of all characters! Why? Of all things! the dumb invis. clicky!

Run 6 - Band of Siberys - Who took this ring? A freaking Rogue! why? only for the +6 Con!! why am i ****ed bout this one?? I have stat'd my Artificer for Range Tanking MA, With gear. I have full use of this set.. I even tried to advise this person that he could easily buy or craft something that simple. Still got screwed.

Run 8 - Skunked

Run 9 - Rahkir's Ring - FvS took it! Why? for the 0.5 spell crit only!!!! Why am I really ****ed? he alrdy has an Archmage Item and superior arcane lore and he most likely could've crafted the spell critability! YEAH 7 points of Intelligence wasted because of 0.5 crit chance.

SO yeah I'm REALLY sick and tired of getting shafted every single time i have done this raid, It's to this point that I am making this post. And I already know any and almost every guaranteed time I run this raid (which I'm to the point of not bothering with it because of DA people w/o any clue) I'm not going to get an extremely viable ring that drops in the chest because of some DA reason or another.

PLEASE make us a ToD set! Or even better yet, Put class use only on the Rings! Artificers don't have a chance in H#LL of getting ToD rings from there Becuz of really DA people who can practically either buy or craft that single dumb thing they want from a ring that will most likely get used for a couple weeks then rot away in their bank!!!!

Dev's I know this post is not the kindest posted you've read in a LONG time, but I speak for all artificers and other classes that do NOT have the luxury of having class based ring's in the ToD raid. It really makes me and many other players ****ed off, hurt, or even mad enough that run this raid over, and over, and over again and get dealt the same crappy stained card everytime because some player decides he wants a ring that almost totally useless except for 1 reason, stat, or ability. Which now can easily be either crafted, Epic crafted, hell even found in random junk chests...

WE BEG of you to please, please, please make the artificer class, upcoming druid class (yeah they'll get shafted too in ToD), and any other class/PrE thats missing from this raid a ToD ring set PLEASE

I've got a few things to say about this, but first, I am going to address the last paragraph. ToD rings/sets should be reset so that it's a class item (as Ovrad suggested), and have it so that the items can be crafted into a specific prestige. There's simply too many enhancements that the odds of getting the set you actually need are pretty low (and there's no reason things cannot be made more efficient where possible).

As for the rest of your post:

1) You do not speak for me (I am currently an Artificer), as I do not NEED a ToD set (the Ring of Master Artifice has been fairly sufficient for me, as has been the Epic Ring of the Buccaneer). In fact, the Fighter Active Past life noticeably boosts alacrity and to-hit (especially on a level 20 character, as this boost goes by character level rather than class level). Alacrity items are nice luxury, but one that is not really needed (especially not in this upcoming update where it may be possible to craft an alacrity boost on any item).

2 [and this is addressing NaturalHazard's post about being squelched/blacklisted over loot distribution]) I abide by one simple rule - a rule I make sure everyone in my party/raid-party is aware of: My loot, My rules, Your Loot, Your rules (though on Orien, most of the people I group with are well-aware of this rule). Just because someone pulls an item you feel you need does not mean you are entitled to it; if an item is in another person's name, they're free to decide what to do with it, even if it means giving it to someone who does not "currently need" it (as they might want to use it in their next build), or letting it rot in the chest.

3) You're complaining about not getting what you want after the 9th run? There's been people who've run Demon Queen HUNDREDS of times, and never once pull a Torc of Prince Raiyum. There's been people who've tried for years to make an Epic Ring of Spell Storing, and still not have it (only the very select few individuals on Orien actually have an Epic Ring of Spell Storing).

Keep trying, eventually you will get your item (Epic Red Dragon Armor/Robes/Docents can take as little as one year to obtain depending on how lucky someone is).

4) Making items class-only does not prevent anyone from looting it, just from using it if they don't have a level in that specific class. Not to mention, there are those who want the Completionist perk.