Artificer ToD rings.. Tired of being screwed

[Grandesa]

OK, I have done ToD 9 times on my artificer since his TR, just came out of one.. AND 6 out of 9 times, I GET SCREWED on the rings. Each time there was a viable ring that closest matched the needs of an artificer, some DA decides he/she wants it for a single stat or ability. Ya want perfect examples of how really ****ed off I am?

Run 1 - My First time in since TR Whisper ring dropped, guess what class rolled and took it? a Barbarian, why you ask? for the sneak attack! and he was one of the Tanks!

Run 2 - skunk chest

Run 3 - Ring of Deftness. what class took it? a Wizard! why? only for the +1 exceptional int. Thats It? really? ***??? you can craft that with epic dungeon tokens!

Run 4 - Gilvaenor's Ring. Agian Screwed by a useless class taking it. Fighter! why? for reflex saves. (it's a RANGED ring set! not melee!)

Run 5 - Skunked yet again

Run 7 - Nyoko's Band - Again screwed! by the Main Tank of all characters! Why? Of all things! the dumb invis. clicky!

Run 6 - Band of Siberys - Who took this ring? A freaking Rogue! why? only for the +6 Con!! why am i ****ed bout this one?? I have stat'd my Artificer for Range Tanking MA, With gear. I have full use of this set.. I even tried to advise this person that he could easily buy or craft something that simple. Still got screwed.

Run 8 - Skunked

Run 9 - Rahkir's Ring - FvS took it! Why? for the 0.5 spell crit only!!!! Why am I really ****ed? he alrdy has an Archmage Item and superior arcane lore and he most likely could've crafted the spell critability! YEAH 7 points of Intelligence wasted because of 0.5 crit chance.

SO yeah I'm REALLY sick and tired of getting shafted every single time i have done this raid, It's to this point that I am making this post. And I already know any and almost every guaranteed time I run this raid (which I'm to the point of not bothering with it because of DA people w/o any clue) I'm not going to get an extremely viable ring that drops in the chest because of some DA reason or another.

PLEASE make us a ToD set! Or even better yet, Put class use only on the Rings! Artificers don't have a chance in H#LL of getting ToD rings from there Becuz of really DA people who can practically either buy or craft that single dumb thing they want from a ring that will most likely get used for a couple weeks then rot away in their bank!!!!

Dev's I know this post is not the kindest posted you've read in a LONG time, but I speak for all artificers and other classes that do NOT have the luxury of having class based ring's in the ToD raid. It really makes me and many other players ****ed off, hurt, or even mad enough that run this raid over, and over, and over again and get dealt the same crappy stained card everytime because some player decides he wants a ring that almost totally useless except for 1 reason, stat, or ability. Which now can easily be either crafted, Epic crafted, hell even found in random junk chests...

WE BEG of you to please, please, please make the artificer class, upcoming druid class (yeah they'll get shafted too in ToD), and any other class/PrE thats missing from this raid a ToD ring set PLEASE

[voodoogroves]

No more TOD sets.

More late-game options for other classes and more capability to add in the same bonuses in other places.

New content please.

[Glenalth]

No more TOD sets.

More late-game options for other classes and more capability to add in the same bonuses in other places.

New content please.

I agree with the no more ToD part anway.

Split some of them off of that raid and take the ones that are yet to exist and stick them somewhere else.

[TheDearLeader]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

[djl]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

Haha, +1

No but I agree it's frustrating to have classes roll on rings that could much better benefit a different class (heard horror stories of casters rolling on Encrusted with barbs in the party) but you aren't entitled to anything that didn't pop in your name.




Besides, Artificers have so much to choose from when building their gear that you don't really need a ToD set to be good on one. Look into the Challenge rings-- they're very nice.

[NaturalHazard]

Haha, +1

No but I agree it's frustrating to have classes roll on rings that could much better benefit a different class (heard horror stories of casters rolling on Encrusted with barbs in the party) but you aren't entitled to anything that didn't pop in your name.

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Last week I pulled an encrusted ring on my ranger, I don't have one and it would of been useful for me vs certain mob types but I put it up for roll a wizard rolled on it, to give to his barbarian friend and even admited it in voice, a fighter won it and the barbarian cried.

and some people squelched me because i didnt just give it to the barb, squelched for putting loot up for roll? *** man!!!! they must of had the same attitude of the op.

[protokon]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

my thoughts exactly.

[RedDragonScale]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

This.



+1 to you.

[NaturalHazard]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

that seems to be the case.............. I only count on what i pull in my chest getting a shot at other peoples loot is a bonus for me not a right.

[azrael4h]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

Pretty much...

OP, if it drops in someone else's name, it's not yours. It does not matter if you can use it "more" or not, if it drops in someone's name, then it is that persons. If they put it up for roll, they are being nice. If they take it, it's theirs anyway.

If you do not roll highest on an item that is put for roll, then tough. It belongs then to the high roller.

In either case, you are not being "screwed" either literally or figuratively. The item in question was never yours to begin with.

[Oakianus]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

This post cannot get enough pos reps.

[Ungood]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

Pretty much. Yup

But underneath all frothing at the mouth loot rage, there was one good point.

Kinda cheesy of Turbine to put in a whole new class and not make a TOD set for them.

So dispute his brazen rantings, I am going to have to say /Signed for an Arti-ToD Set.

[UrbanPyro]

Deleted.

[Plaidpooka]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

Agreed. Unless I have joined a group and agreed to a specific request in advance, my loot is mine. To keep for any reason, to give away to anyone for any reason, or to put up for a roll, if I decide to. That's a simple game fact, and not worth raising one's blood pressure over.

[Havok.cry]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

This

This post cannot get enough pos reps.

and this.

Although to the OP, my lack of a torc feels your pain... im only at 40 runs though, so I hope I can have in in no more than 20 more (/prays to loot gods, /sacrifices another puppy on the loot altar)

[BrightAsh]

In this thread, OP is upset because someone else's loot isn't his/hers.

*chuckle*

/signed

Only 9 runs and already ****ed off? how many people have multiple characters with over 50 runs and still don't have what they want.

[Ikuryo]

22 runs before my light monk was handed the Kyosho ring by a really nice guy.

22 runs of watching 3-4 Kyosho go up for roll, only 1 went to a light monk. Rest went to other dps of various types. Had just about given up on getting the ring since everyone was willing to roll for a ring that fit my class and prestige line. I have a bank full of other random sets that no one wanted and were passed to me.

I can't really use any of them.

Oh and my 20th list was all rings (cha, int) I had and no tomes.

Should just be glad you saw that many ring drop.

[ddo.rsmo.pt]

I suggest the OP to find a decent guild to run Raids with. It is the only good shot at getting items dropped to other people. ToD isn't even the most contested one, and 9 runs are a drop in the ocean of Raiding.

I say NO to class-locking any item in the game. Creativity shouldn't be locked.
I say NO to pot-smoking FBI members.

Carry on...

[Terebinthia]

I wouldn't support forcing TOD rings into "must have at least 1 level of X class" mechanics.

My FvS has a random ring for the charisma / wisdom (Telvi's, IIRC, could be dragonmarked) and a cleric ring (Morgana's) for the to hit. It's not my fault there's no FvS sets.

My ranger has a monk ring (Kyosho's) and a Barbarian ring (Ravager) - it's not my fault the tempest set is naff.

My cleric has a random ring for the charisma / wisdom, a wizard ring for the major arcane lore, and - oh look! A cleric ring (Amara's) for the extra bursts, which I wear only when partied up. The other cleric rings that I've been passed because no-one wanted them rot in the bank because they are junk for her build. On the other hand I would be delighted with one of those cleric rings for my monk as a stopgap wisdom ring prior to Kyosho's. At least I could put holy burst on SOMETHING, lol.

I like that there is flexibility in the TOD sets. I do think it's worth challenging wacky rolls politely if in party sometimes (I was a bit boggled when a barbarian rolled against a FvS for Tharmor's (Charisma / Con, great for a FvS, sorc, pally) and was completely unable to articulate why they wanted it - if it had been my loot I wouldn't have given it to him given his lack of ability to explain his need - he lucked out as the puller was more relaxed) and sometimes if people are rolling for future lives and stuff they will be nice if you explain that's your ideal set - this is how I got my Charisma / Wisdom ring on my Soul.

But there's a big difference between saying "look, that's the set I really want, are you sure you need that?" nicely and expecting other people's loot.

N.B. Not even sure I'm going to take my wizzy into TOD - not sure Rakhir's +int is better than Epic ring of Master Artifice, Epic Spyglass and random +6 GFL belt these days... Plus I'm a wimp about learning to tank / kite shadows

[DeafeningWhisper]

I'm at 18 runs on my wiz and pretty sure I'll have to get at the very least to 20 to get either wiz rings, I did get Cinder thou because I needed the str and something to put +2 exec con on.

Rolling on something that someone else could use much more is annoying but it's part of the game, Hell I once lost a Torc to a barb who was then asked if he was Tring into a caster and he answered "no, why?". Seen casters rolling on Madstone boots, Lorikk Shield and the like and getting angry when the player who pulled them gave them to a class that could get full use of them (his loot his rules, people do realise those players could just have kept them right?).

I've rolled on stuff people could use better then my toon and more often then not I just end up passing them in chest and getting them later.

P.S. 9 runs of any raid is not nearly enough times to be mad, I know a wiz who is at 82 runs of ADQ2 with no Torc.