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    Community Member voodoogroves's Avatar
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    Default Sigh ... no ML rings gone

    From the release notes

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    Reign of Madness

    NEW: The rings offered as end rewards now have a minimum level.
    Ghallanda - now with fewer alts and more ghostbane

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    Quick! More Reign of Madness Zerging!

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    Let the ransacking begin

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    Guess I know what I'm doing this weekend...

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    I lol'd.
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    Just another bait and switch in my book. When there is a "feature" to a pack, and people spend real $$$ to get it, these types of changes are wrong.

    Just like the challenges, they leave it long enough to get the $$$ in, then take it away.

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    This was a bug fix, not a bait-and-switch.

    People must be really good at deceiving themselves to make themselves believe this was working as intended.
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    Some people brag about how fast they finished the game. I cant think of a stupider thing to brag about. Or in this game, going from level 1 to level 30 in two days, or however long it takes. I can't even begin to imagine what drives a person to think that is fun. You are ignoring all of the content and options and going for sheer speed. It is like going to a museum and bragging about how fast you made it through. Or bragging about how fast you finished a good steak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    This was a bug fix, not a bait-and-switch.

    People must be really good at deceiving themselves to make themselves believe this was working as intended.
    This.

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    So will rings you already have be no ML still? Or will they be changed too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    This was a bug fix, not a bait-and-switch.

    People must be really good at deceiving themselves to make themselves believe this was working as intended.
    Oh it totally needed to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    This was a bug fix, not a bait-and-switch.

    People must be really good at deceiving themselves to make themselves believe this was working as intended.
    Yes, thank you.

    Pointed this out a few times with the people I run with, and it's about time they fixed it.
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    The only downside is that this is an early-win problem; those who don't have them never will ... kinda like the ease of raising crafting levels in the very early beta, as opposed to now.

    Stuff like this is why I don't mind them increasing drop rates on other items in the game or lowering scale/relic counts, etc.
    Ghallanda - now with fewer alts and more ghostbane

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    WAI or not, I know what chain I'll be farming until U13...

    (Just watch, I'll bet they SOMEHOW find a way to retroactively put the ML on rings that were acquired BEFORE U13, and we WON'T have to put them in a Stone of Change for it to happen either )
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    I know what chain i am running tonight now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    This was a bug fix, not a bait-and-switch.

    People must be really good at deceiving themselves to make themselves believe this was working as intended.
    To each their own then.

    If it was a bug, it should not have taken over a year to address.

    Other bugs like this are fixed quietly so no one can abuse it one last time.

    The forwarning about this "bug fix" throws up red flags to me.

    Turbine - "quick buy this pack before we nerf the loot!"

    The whole thing seems dirty to me, yes the rings are out or wack, but there was no mention of them not WAI. I truly saw them as a desperate plan to entice people into buying the pack. So once again the people that got in early reap the rewards.

    OH, and they never said what the new ML would be. Could all be ML7 .... still nice items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    This was a bug fix, not a bait-and-switch.

    People must be really good at deceiving themselves to make themselves believe this was working as intended.
    But Turbine never fixed it! It must be intended!

    Quote Originally Posted by DefunctEquation View Post
    So will rings you already have be no ML still? Or will they be changed too?
    "What was will be, what is will be no more."

    Sorry, Thrudh was making me think of Ghostbusters 2. "Lenny... have you looked outside? We've taken our own headcount. There are a million miserable ******** out there."

    Which in turn kept the quote process going. I'm pretty certain your rings that exist will continue to be as they are. But any future rings will be corrected. This is the standard mo of Turbine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    This was a bug fix, not a bait-and-switch.

    People must be really good at deceiving themselves to make themselves believe this was working as intended.
    If so then make the change retroactive. If this was a bug and new people can't benefit from it peeps who already have such rings shouldn't either. At least they benefited while it lasted.

    On a brighter note i guess i wont have to buy that pack now, almost did last week and decided to wait Glad i did wait !
    Last edited by SilkofDrasnia; 02-09-2012 at 02:31 PM.
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    Insulting the development team is not allowed.
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    Somebody should definitely explain to Turbine that when they roll up a new GM that INT is not dump stat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkofDrasnia View Post
    If so then make the change retroactive.
    I support this idea just because I enjoy forum rage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somenewnoob View Post
    I support this idea just because I enjoy forum rage.
    Hehe, the devs are clever as well helping me save my money.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan
    Insulting the development team is not allowed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jendrak
    Somebody should definitely explain to Turbine that when they roll up a new GM that INT is not dump stat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkofDrasnia View Post
    If so then make the change retroactive. If this was a bug and new people can't benefit from it peeps who already have such rings shouldn't either. At least they benefited while it lasted.

    On a brighter note i guess i wont have to buy that pack now, almost did last week and decided to wait Glad i did wait !
    They never took away all of the legendary shield/weapons when Necro 3/4 got released when that was getting exploited.

    Motto is exploit early, exploit often. *sigh*

    And in this day of communication and social media, transparency on these issues will save you from bad PR that you won't really be able to recover from. Hiding behind a wall of draconian authority will only destroy you.
    Oh well, tangent over.

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