Make all Colorless Augment Slots Craftible +5

[JOTMON]

We have items that are non-epic craftible +3 that become Colorless slots when made epic.

Colorless and Yellow slots are a downgrade for many users and would be better served by allowing them to be craftible slots.

Add Craftible +5 to the colorless and yellow slots so we can keep or improve crafting on these items.

[sirgog]

I really don't think we need the Epic Sword of Shadows to gain Vicious and Greater Construct Bane.

[badbob117]

I seem to remember one of the devs stating that epic slots and crafting will not be in game for some time do to bugs and stuff. That is why they did not make all the epic challenge stuff craftable. I forget who posted it. its in the challenge feedback threads some where.

It would be nice lowering the min level of Epic items and weps with marks of craftmanship though.

[JOTMON]

Ugh, eSOS again..
Deadly Weapons... to be nerfed because of eSOS..
Ideas quashed because eSOS is OP.
what else will sucumb to the uberness of it.

Its a love hate relationship we hate eSOS until we get one.

Perhaps limited to non-weapon crafting...

Edit: add a selection of craftable items to the Colourless slot option without restriction to the placement (like dodge being limited to bracers/goggles), this would then limit what could be selected but would allow you to craft dodge+1 onto a helm or other item not normally permitted with Cannith crafting. Epic items should allow more leeway to permit it to be better than normal crafted stuff.

[dkyle]

It's not really just the ESoS in this case. +5 Craftable is a tremendous buff over a clear slot for any weapon, but not as much for accessories.

[Azonalanthious]

It's not really just the ESoS in this case. +5 Craftable is a tremendous buff over a clear slot for any weapon, but not as much for accessories.

This. Though I would say even with accessories. Sure the +6 to stats is a nice bonus, +1 exceptional is reasonable for those colorless slots. But +5 craftable means almost every craftable effect -- exceptions being +13 skill bonuses, +6 stat (which you can already get in a colorless), vamprism, true seeing, greater _ focus, and the top tier sell pens/sp boosts. Which leaves way to many/too powerful options you could stick in there. A colorless slot would basicly become better then EVERY yellow slot option, most blue slot options, and some of the red slot options. WAY to big of a substitution. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against the idea of a colorless being used for craftable, but +5 is overpowerd. +3, maybe. No +5 though.

Though, as already mentioned, devs have mentioned system compatablility issues between then, so don't hold your breath on this.

[Bart_D]

/kinda signed

+5 would probably be too strong, but a tiny bit of crafting customization would be nice. I dont know what would be reasonable but something like +3 could be neat. As it is, i have never used a single clear slot.

[sephiroth1084]

I really don't think we need the Epic Sword of Shadows to gain Vicious and Greater Construct Bane.

What about if the colorless slots were labeled as counting as a ring/trinket/goggles or something, rather than as a weapon?

We could slot +4 attack, bonuses to saves, and an assortment of other useful stuff, without boosting damage necessarily.

Or go in and hand-code craftable onto items that seem like they could use/need it? Or create a new augment color, say White, that can take crafting or colorless augments, and replace the colorless augment on anything for which crafting wouldn't be deemed too strong.

Some epic weapons could stand to gain some additional weapon effects without becoming OP.

[Ravoc-DDO]

/signed


If eSoS breaks the concept, just remove the sword from the game.

[HungarianRhapsody]

We have items that are non-epic craftible +3 that become Colorless slots when made epic.

Colorless and Yellow slots are a downgrade for many users and would be better served by allowing them to be craftible slots.

Add Craftible +5 to the colorless and yellow slots so we can keep or improve crafting on these items.

I'd be cool with having an colorless augment of +4 crafting potential (non-stacking). +4 means that you can throw one or two interesting shards on the item. +5 means that you can start the potential upgrade path to +6, +7, etc. Keeping the augment as +4 would prevent you from getting more than +4.

It would certainly make Alchemical weapons more interesting.

[Memnir]

If eSoS breaks the concept, just remove the sword from the game.

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[AMDarkwolf]

Easy fix.. expend the list of augment crystals

Done. Keep the 2 crafting systems separate. As stated above, can see many 'ways to break the system' if u allow crafting in lue of augments.

[Ravoc-DDO]

..baldy..

I'm actually serious. Removing eSoS would allow to restabilize & fix so many melee mechanics.

[Memnir]

Oh, I don't doubt that you are serious. Not in the least. I just doubt that Turbine actually would take eSoS out of the game.


Why?
Please reference all the drama when they tried to change an item recently. Now imagine all that Madstone rage in triplicate if they try to tweak or remove the eSoS, and I think you'd have something close to what would actually happen.

[Ravoc-DDO]

Oh, I don't doubt that you are serious. Not in the least. I just doubt that Turbine actually would take eSoS out of the game.


Why?
Please reference all the drama when they tried to change an item recently. Now imagine all that Madstone rage in triplicate if they try to tweak or remove the eSoS, and I think you'd have something close to what would actually happen.

Still the lesser of 2 evils imo