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    Default Please make all tomes Bta

    it would be helpful,kinda of sucks to have 4, 3+ tomes that are useless rotting in bank,on my 4 guys. _edit_ just 20th reward raid tomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexthegood View Post
    it would be helpful,kinda of sucks to have 4, 3+ tomes that are useless rotting in bank,on my 4 guys.
    Pretty sure if you bound all peoples tomes to account the uprising and nerdrage would be incredible.

    might be fun to watch...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Pretty sure if you bound all peoples tomes to account the uprising and nerdrage would be incredible.

    might be fun to watch...
    i took tomes on my 80 raids to save for my tr xD but i already ate the 3+s i got so idk. would it really hurt?

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    Pretty sure if you bound all peoples tomes to account the uprising and nerdrage would be incredible.

    might be fun to watch...
    Agreed but I don't think that is what the OP means. lol My guess is that he is referring to tomes that are BTC. If a tome is BTC and then we are able to retain our tomes on a TR, that pretty much makes those tomes nothing but vendor fodder. Are tomes used in crafting? Sorry, I haven't gotten into that yet.

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    I see absolutely nothing wrong with this. Doomsayers will say that this will end +4 tomes going up for roll...but honestly, I've never seen a +4 tome up for roll...
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    MajMal has already said they will not be retro-modifying the tomes as that is much more complex then it sounds. That includes changing the bound state of tomes.

    My Own personal feeling is, I would must rather they did not mess with tomes on the eve of them modifying their future behavior, that is like asking, nay, begging! for something to get bugged.

    They are allowing us to Keep Tomes upon TR. Lets try to be happy about that.

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    tome I have put up for roll:
    2 x +4 INT
    1 x +4 DEX
    1 x +3 WIS

    tomes I have been forced to eat on a character they were totally unsuitable for because they were a 20th reward
    1 x +4 INT

    tomes I have won from roll:
    1 x +4 CHA
    1 x +4 DEX

    Does that mean I'd be ahead with this change? I guess so...
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    Epic demon queen ( EDQ2 ) tend to drop +3 BtA tomes, so run it as much as you want/can for BtA tomes.

    OT: No point to make tome(s) non BtC since no one would ever put single +3 on roll ( reaver, vod, hox.... eDQ2 (dq can drop both BtC and BtA +3) eVelah) and break game kinda, think even +3 form end list would be unbound too ( well BtA ) which wouldn't be nice to existing one tome(s).

    And with changes for keeping tomes i think that i won't see many tomes on roll in raids
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ungood View Post
    They are allowing us to Keep Tomes upon TR. Lets try to be happy about that.
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    And besides, this change will make BTC tomes rolled for more often. This is a very good change *as is*!
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    BTC loot is supposed to encourage people to share raid loot. If you're taking them even though you have no use for them, perhaps you should consider sharing. Either way, I'd rather not mess up the mechanic that makes splitting raid loot so much more enjoyable in this game than in others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandric View Post
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    BTC loot is supposed to encourage people to share raid loot. If you're taking them even though you have no use for them, perhaps you should consider sharing. Either way, I'd rather not mess up the mechanic that makes splitting raid loot so much more enjoyable in this game than in others.
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    With all changes there is someone who's not going to gain as much benefit.

    I've you've been saving tomes for a future TR, remember you assumed you were going to lose them all anyway...
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    He didn't take them to be greedy. What he is saying is that he took them when they were BTC before the new TR mechanic that lets us keep our tomes.

    I understand what he wants...it makes perfect sense. The new mechanic make his tomes that are BTC useless on toons that have already eaten those tomes.

    But I also understand why people would be against this as it definitely *would* lower the instance of people putting tomes up for roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgarallanpoe View Post
    He didn't take them to be greedy. What he is saying is that he took them when they were BTC before the new TR mechanic that lets us keep our tomes.

    I understand what he wants...it makes perfect sense. The new mechanic make his tomes that are BTC useless on toons that have already eaten those tomes.

    But I also understand why people would be against this as it definitely *would* lower the instance of people putting tomes up for roll.
    Yes,just 20-80th and so on end rewards... but i guess this idea is not so hot. should of explained it better was in a bit of a nerdrage,just saw how many 3+s i have for tr that i have already eaten and i dont even craft >< title should be please make all 20th-80th reward tomes Bta

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    They should certainly change future +2 Favor reward tomes to BTA though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Full_Bleed View Post
    They should certainly change future +2 Favor reward tomes to BTA though.
    that would be nice to

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    BTC tomes should become BTA at a minimum.

    Even with that I'd still end up having a bunch of useless tomes unless I decide to crunch them for crafting or make yet another character.

    Keeping tomes on a TR is going to put a LOT of tomes back into the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ungood View Post
    MajMal has already said they will not be retro-modifying the tomes as that is much more complex then it sounds. That includes changing the bound state of tomes.

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    They are allowing us to Keep Tomes upon TR. Lets try to be happy about that.
    So does that mean that only tomes consumed after U13 will be kept upon TR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GentlemanAndAScholar View Post
    So does that mean that only tomes consumed after U13 will be kept upon TR?
    Yes, I TR'ed yesterday and have not received the inherit tome bonus at level three so I can confirm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarterling View Post
    Yes, I TR'ed yesterday and have not received the inherit tome bonus at level three so I can confirm.
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