I´ve heard somewhere that the new u13 epics do not drop epic fragments / tokens ?
Is this true? Anyone know?
I don't see myself running these epics often if they don't drop them though :/
I´ve heard somewhere that the new u13 epics do not drop epic fragments / tokens ?
Is this true? Anyone know?
I don't see myself running these epics often if they don't drop them though :/
At present on Lama no.
I expect that will change. Q2 is worth two full tokens for sure.
I don't have a zerging problem.
I'm zerging. That's YOUR problem.
Honestly I think they need to redo epic tokens all over again , possibly in the new quests depending on what they will be set at , but most definitely in the old. I can run Labor Shortage lvl 21 or higher in 10 mins and get a token when some of these epic quests take twice that time or more and i get fragments... its time to look into making all epic quests drop tokens and keep the fragments for the candy bags that drop on the groud imho
SARLONA ~ BREY BRAY BRAI BREI BRAYZ CEMPER CEMP SEMPER SAVALOTProud Officer of ROVING GUNS
Disagree with that. If epic items are provided for free players, way to get tokens need to be in game.
Number of token per quest should depend only on quest difficulty and length, not the fact that it's f2p or p2p. Otherwise it means you have no incentive to run the quest if you already have other epic packs.
I believe the reason for that is that in other epic quests, at the same time as getting tokens/fragments, you are also getting parts of epic items. In challenges, if you trade all your rewards for tokens, you won't get any item upgrade...
Oh, and Turbine needs to give people an incentive to buy the challenge pack, too.
That said, I agree some epics deserve having their tokens/fragment rate upped.
The challenges should give higher token rates, but not the current triple or quadruple rates that you can get over even running a bunch of alts through eDA.
You only have a CHANCE at getting epic parts in real epics (aside from an always dropped shard one like Big Top or Deeps), while challenges always give you something.
VoN4 and Spies in the House are two that are very deserving of dropping a full token, because both give just fragments now.
My eDA take 25-35 mins on average. 2 tokens + a high chance at larges + a small but not negligible chance at very rare and expensive items such as mettalic wraps, red augments, boot mats.
The average pug may take longer, but not much. Challenge farming will give 1 more token, but no larges and other precious items. It doesn't seem *that* unbalanced to me, especially since last patch already nerfed the best challenges.
Also, variety is good. I farm BOTH challenges and eDA, because they're both fun to me. 3-manned eDA in 34 mins two days ago, aside from tokens I did get a lot of fun.
And again, I agree some quets could have their tokens upped. VoN4 and Spies in the House you mentionned could even get 2 tokens and that'd be fine, considering they're not trivial and no one ever runs them, that'd give an incentive to actually try.
SARLONA ~ BREY BRAY BRAI BREI BRAYZ CEMPER CEMP SEMPER SAVALOTProud Officer of ROVING GUNS
Not having played the new quests I can't really say if some deserve 1+ epic tokens, but if they're hard/long enough, why not.
I kinda like where this is going, a free epic pack is very nice, and it's prolly a way to give freebies some nice gear/testing ground in preparation for tougher content (21-25 I guess). I think that this + CC + mabar should provide decent end game gear even if you're completely F2P, good job turbine.
Cannith - Juzam, Fighter 8 Ranger 6 Monk 6 AA/ Orocarn, Wraith 12 Stalwart Defender 6 Rogue 2 / Taigongwanng, Sorc TRing - Alleanza degli Uomini Liberi/Guardiani di Eberron
Devs: Thanks for making Druids available to VIPs without the pack. This more than anything, has made me want to buy the pack.
Cannith - Juzam, Fighter 8 Ranger 6 Monk 6 AA/ Orocarn, Wraith 12 Stalwart Defender 6 Rogue 2 / Taigongwanng, Sorc TRing - Alleanza degli Uomini Liberi/Guardiani di Eberron