Frozen Tunic ... Proc on ranged?

[voodoogroves]

Thinking about making one for my archery dude. Does it proc with bows?

[TheDearLeader]

I want to *say* I've seen an archer use it and proc the Freezing Ice. But I personally don't have a ranged toon.

[Deathdefy]

Works fine with a normal bow.

With a rune arm it's bugged to high heaven and only works if you put the Tunic on after your rune arm - in which case you don't get the bonus rune arm damage. So you have to choose between bonus rune arm damage and freezing ice procs.

Anyway, for normal bow purposes like I said, it works perfectly.

[voodoogroves]

Awesome news for my Moncher.

Any idea what the rate and DC is on the lesser freezing ice? (L16 version)? I could spin him up one of those right away, but given the way I tend to play multiple toons he's a bit from cap and the level 20 version.

[Darkrok]

Works fine with a normal bow.

With a rune arm it's bugged to high heaven and only works if you put the Tunic on after your rune arm - in which case you don't get the bonus rune arm damage. So you have to choose between bonus rune arm damage and freezing ice procs.

Anyway, for normal bow purposes like I said, it works perfectly.

Don't know how but I'm getting both the frozen ice and the extra rune arm damage. Rune arm is a level 17 version of Lucid Dreams, tunic is t1 level 16.

[Deathdefy]

Awesome news for my Moncher.

Any idea what the rate and DC is on the lesser freezing ice? (L16 version)? I could spin him up one of those right away, but given the way I tend to play multiple toons he's a bit from cap and the level 20 version.

It honestly goes off a lot.

Enough that when I've accidentally switched rune arm and thereby 'turned off' the tunic, I'll notice pretty quickly that I'm not getting freezing ice procs.

I'd guess 5%ish and DC wise... I don't know. Enough to matter. The examples that come to mind are Running with the Devils elite where the Ghaele would never seem to make their save and Ghola Fan elite where the ogres also couldn't seem to save. Nothing else is springing to mind, but the lower level ones really are great for at-level content.

I'd guess that the 'minor' and 'lesser' only affect DC not proc-rate, and not even DC too dramatically.

@Darkrok: you are lucky! I am certain mine was still being buggy last weekend. I'll have another check and cross my fingers.
EDIT: Wonder if it's the tier I that is fine and I'm bugging out due to the "craftable" on the tier 3? Will test. Thanks for the info though. I'll definitely have a play.

[voodoogroves]

It honestly goes off a lot.

Enough that when I've accidentally switched rune arm and thereby 'turned off' the tunic, I'll notice pretty quickly that I'm not getting freezing ice procs.

I'd guess 5%ish and DC wise... I don't know. Enough to matter. The examples that come to mind are Running with the Devils elite where the Ghaele would never seem to make their save and Ghola Fan elite where the ogres also couldn't seem to save. Nothing else is springing to mind, but the lower level ones really are great for at-level content.

I'd guess that the 'minor' and 'lesser' only affect DC not proc-rate, and not even DC too dramatically.

@Darkrok: you are lucky! I am certain mine was still being buggy last weekend. I'll have another check and cross my fingers.
EDIT: Wonder if it's the tier I that is fine and I'm bugging out due to the "craftable" on the tier 3? Will test. Thanks for the info though. I'll definitely have a play.

Thanks for the info - I'll make a set of the 16s tonight to play around with.

[Darkrok]

@Darkrok: you are lucky! I am certain mine was still being buggy last weekend. I'll have another check and cross my fingers.
EDIT: Wonder if it's the tier I that is fine and I'm bugging out due to the "craftable" on the tier 3? Will test. Thanks for the info though. I'll definitely have a play.

Other possibilities could be when it was originally crafted, which rune arm(s) you're using, whether you're swapping gear after logging in, etc. I know that I swap away from and then back to my frozen tunic at the beginning of every single dungeon to use my level 16 mabar robe's nightshield clicky.

And just to reiterate - it really does go off a LOT. If you've got a strong rune arm and spec you'll find yourself killing things 1-shot quite often once they're frozen even in epics. Getting helpless damage on a full barrage from Lucid Dreams is pretty insane.

[Darkrok]

Ok, just logged in to test again and think I just got fooled by all the different numbers I had. I confirmed that all of my xbows worked the same - I only get the rune arm damage or the proc, not both.

Definitely changes things for how I'll play a few raids...swap rune arms as the last move instead of frozen tunic last. Glad you posted the thread!

[oberon131313]

works on ranged, and coupled with the Bow of Earth and improved precise shot makes for some nice CC