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    Quote Originally Posted by alexp80 View Post
    In fact, the kind of arcane that you describe overpowered are really harder to equip than a good melee.
    Tend to disagree. If you want to be really OP, as in being able to instakill/CC/DPS/self heal (i.e. one-man army), then yes, it's a long way to walk in terms of gear.

    But I wrote "to be effective". What I meant is you can outperform a typical melee without much gear. Say on a sorc: You can DPS in any epic quests and be non squishy with just quest items, a shroud item and cannith gear. Except in the toughest epics, you an also CC with few tricks. Solo-CC e-Chrono and e-DA on a sorc is, of course, more difficult. But on a wizard? Doable without raid gear, I think.

    Cause, you know, dc is a matter of "all of nothing"; if you are a dps could be mediocre, average, good and so on...
    a caster in epic have to be good or a buff bot.
    Agree. But the devs buffed some spells to help the DCs in U9.

    A bunch of gs and a standard eChrono set + 1 set ring from tod and a melee with a solid build is fine.
    That's already quite a bit of gear.

    A caster to pump up his dc at reliable epic level have to grind lot of unique raid items and possibly turn some in the epic version (torch, demon consort, greenblade, ...).
    For DCs, you don't need epic or other rare gear on a caster, Cannith crafted greater focus DCs are as good. Of course, exc+3 from ToD or Shroud or Cove Spyglass helps here. For Spell Pen it's a bit different, but just a bit. GSP VII (discoball) or higher, you can only obtain on rare gear (DT or epic). However, Spell Pen IX you can obtain from a rare chest with very nice drop rate in an explorer area.


    Also needs 2 gs accesories (hp/sp) which means an essence of cleansing, tod set, tons of clickies, a +3/+4 tome...
    HP OR SP you can obtain from non-GS to start with. +3 Tome, yes, hope for luck on 20 Shroud completions.

    He also need AT LEAST 1 past life.
    To outshine everything? Yes. To perform well? Don't think so.

    THEN, and only then, you will be one of the stellar arcane that can shine in epics like a burning death star
    Yes, then he will really shine. With some skills, of course.

    But what you see on forum are the pics of them soloing epics, not the pics of newbie casters not able to CC a simple eLast Stand with 37dc
    Yes, to easily solo epics, it's really a long way. To CC such quests, it's more a matter of knowledge than insane gear, IMHO.

    But my most important point is: Arcanes can be nice boss DPS from DoTs alone without any hard to obtain gear at all. From my experience, it's only under special conditions where an arcane with a pair of lootgen clickies can't deliver the DPS of a comparably equipped melee.

    Of course, I agree, that to truly obliterate everything on a caster, it requires skill, time and gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sephiroth1084 View Post
    Not really...
    Do a tiny bit of grinding for a Greater Spell Focus item (some aren't hard to acquire at all), and you are up to 39/42 with the ship buff.
    At least for Khyber we have a list of Cannith crafter who offer their sevices for this. Some of them for no additional costs, IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infant View Post
    I didn't say your build is wrong. Or at least I didn't mean it. Play what you want. I, myself, by far, don't always build for most power or min-max.
    Whether you did or didn't is beside the point. According to everything I've read here my wizard (and most others) is mediocre at best, considering that she only has a DC max of 39 and only 309 HP, despite the fact that I've rebuilt her three times. According to what I've read here I could double my HP and have a DC in the mid 40's. All I'm asking is for the secret to doing it.

    Since no one is willing to step up and make the thread I asked for, I'll go and start one and ask for the information. We can continue this hijack there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverwren View Post
    Whether you did or didn't is beside the point. According to everything I've read here my wizard (and most others) is mediocre at best, considering that she only has a DC max of 39 and only 309 HP, despite the fact that I've rebuilt her three times. According to what I've read here I could double my HP and have a DC in the mid 40's. All I'm asking is for the secret to doing it.

    Since no one is willing to step up and make the thread I asked for, I'll go and start one and ask for the information. We can continue this hijack there.
    Give us at least "boundary conditions". Race, a PrE if you want one. Schools you want to specialize in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarterling View Post
    EDIT: After doing some more thinking, why hasn't anyone ever thought of this before? Stillwaters is on the right track it seems. Melees don't have weighted dice, why should the casters get a huge boost to their spells simply because the dice automatically roll higher in their favor?

    {Rest of post snipped because is was long and arduous. Honestly don't know why I didn't think of Stillwaters' idea in the first place.}

    Final thought: Remove weighted dice from casters. Melees don't get it, why should they?
    ROFL What the heck people all the time the same posts Nerf melees nerf casters and lastly these raids are too dang hard.. LOL maybe raids are too dang hard because you guys keep gettign nerffed because you ask for it I mean you really ask for it LOL omg my sides are hurting so bad right now. you guys make me laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quilny View Post
    ROFL What the heck people all the time the same posts Nerf melees nerf casters and lastly these raids are too dang hard.. LOL maybe raids are too dang hard because you guys keep gettign nerffed because you ask for it I mean you really ask for it LOL omg my sides are hurting so bad right now. you guys make me laugh.
    I don't think people who are ask to nerf melees OR casters also state that raids are too hard.

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