Make all BTC items BTA.

[pregnable]

My suggestion is to remove "bound to character" from the game, and to instead, make these items "bound to account".

This would help with inventory space and creation of alternate characters.

This would be friendly to casual players and newer players who will join for the expansion.

This would allow reincarnated characters to not carry baggage from past lives, without destroying something that would be useful on another character.

This also works well with balance changes, so that items can then be moved to where they are most useful.

[DavionFuxa]

My suggestion is to remove "bound to character" from the game, and to instead, make these items "bound to account".

This would help with inventory space and creation of alternate characters.

This would be friendly to casual players and newer players who will join for the expansion.

This would allow reincarnated characters to not carry baggage from past lives, without destroying something that would be useful on another character.

This also works well with balance changes, so that items can then be moved to where they are most useful.

I see this as a bad move because it is a great marketing decision to have some stuff BTC. It makes you play DDO longer if you have to play an individual characters to get specific loot then play any character to get the loot for your specific individual character and the one your playing. It also encourages players to buy inventory, bank, or shared bank space which means you are more inclined to buy more Turbine Points. As for when people reincarnate their characters, they are more inclined to destroy their less needed equipment and are forced to get it back later if they want it again.

There are other reasons from a player side of things as well - such as sharing the loot you find but don't need which encourages people to keep up good relations with others and helps build a sense of community. Casual players who don't make a whole lot of characters and usually only focus on one or two would additional find it more difficult to gear their characters because the game would be centered around those who play more and have multiple characters to distribute the gear between.

All in all, Bound to Character isn't necessarily a bad thing to have in a few places, and I would rather Turbine be able to make money of it then to look elsewhere to make money (they don't do a good job of looking elsewhere).

[voodoogroves]

I'm a fan of BTA on acquire, BTC on equip. I'd love to be able to take my healer or tank into VOD when the group needed it and not worry that I still need a Tharnes for my rogue.

[~Quilny]

I so agree that Most loot should be BTA and not BTC I do think Named loot from raids like epic loot and stuff should be BTC but.. .. .. . there is alot of stuff like Dragontouch relics ect.. that are btc when I believe it shoudl be BTA so Yeah I dk I guess /signed :s

[~Quilny]

I'm a fan of BTA on acquire, BTC on equip. I'd love to be able to take my healer or tank into VOD when the group needed it and not worry that I still need a Tharnes for my rogue.

very well put I like that Idea

[blerkington]

Hi,

I don't agree that raid loot should be BTA. BTC definitely promotes sharing, where as BTA just leads to hoarding of rare loot 'just in case'.

What would be really nice, if not practical, would be if raid loot from 20th completion lists was BTA, then BTC when equipped. I know it would do a lot to take the bad taste out of my mouth when I get the wrong items, again, from an end reward list if I knew I could pass one of them to an alt.

It would also keep me running raids with characters who don't have anything to gain themselves from those raids.

Thanks.

[morticianjohn]

I don't like this idea. Even BTA on acquire BTC on equip would be a bad change IMO. This would hurt new players as the players who have the raid gear are less likely to put it for roll.

Also I fail to see the issue that you are having. Do you have max bank space? Do you have max bags space including the space from the store?

[Talias006]

I'm a fan of BTA on acquire, BTC on equip. I'd love to be able to take my healer or tank into VOD when the group needed it and not worry that I still need a Tharnes for my rogue.

^ This QFT and will /sign

The TR comment from later on, sorry, don't agree with that.

[Rheebus]

Hi,

I don't agree that raid loot should be BTA. BTC definitely promotes sharing, where as BTA just leads to hoarding of rare loot 'just in case'.

What would be really nice, if not practical, would be if raid loot from 20th completion lists was BTA, then BTC when equipped. I know it would do a lot to take the bad taste out of my mouth when I get the wrong items, again, from an end reward list if I knew I could pass one of them to an alt.

It would also keep me running raids with characters who don't have anything to gain themselves from those raids.

Thanks.

/signed

[JOTMON]

Preaching t o the converted...
Now all we need is Dev's to listen

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=357591



I would switch to a cleric instead of waiting for some other cleric to join the LFM if I knew it didn't matter which toon I ran on to get what I am looking for.
Now I sit on a melee waiting for the LFM to fill or try to convice guildies to come pug with their clerics in the chance I might have a shot at what I looking for.

[MaximumCharisma]

I think they should just have a recipie that you could use in the Stone of Change to change items to BtA. There is a ton of room to add specific requirements for the recipie and it could be as annoying as to make the crafter give serious thought to what they want to change but would at least be an option.

As far as im concerned giving the option for TR pretty much showed us who the packrats really were. Can't say how many times i've seen BtC gear go to someone who probably wont ever use it because "I might TR".

The option for me to change gear to BtA would make me want to play more alts...My 2 main chars have so much BtC gear that I feel ive wasted my time if make a random dude to check on builds, and TR takes soooooooooooo much time.

[pregnable]

Well, I do not expect all BTC to actually go away, but I figured I should aim that high with my suggestion.


My actual problem right now is actually challenge tokens taking up lots of space. I am also saving up some items for characters I want to make and some stuff for when I make a crafting character.

It just feels like every time I play, I am turning all of my other characters into mules. I am also not bringing all of the scrolls I want and still getting full inventory errors. heh.


More BTA would let you get by with only one of each item per account, and you do not have to worry about which character you pick it up with. Then you could share the rest with other players.

I was just thinking more about newer items coming and newer players having to do all the catch up grind for each of their characters. This does not really solve my inventory problems, but it would help.


Another 50% off character slot sale would be nice. wink wink.

[Meetch1972]

Hi,

I don't agree that raid loot should be BTA. BTC definitely promotes sharing, where as BTA just leads to hoarding of rare loot 'just in case'.

What would be really nice, if not practical, would be if raid loot from 20th completion lists was BTA, then BTC when equipped. I know it would do a lot to take the bad taste out of my mouth when I get the wrong items, again, from an end reward list if I knew I could pass one of them to an alt.

It would also keep me running raids with characters who don't have anything to gain themselves from those raids.

Thanks.

I'll /sign this ^^^. There is some need for BtC, but grinding one raid every chance over 60 days should allow for that one special transferable item.

[dotHackSign]

I wonder how much cash Turbine could make if they sold a one time, one item, token you could put into the stone of change with an item and get it changed from BTC to BTA...

[Uska]

No at least to raid items and your wrong making it all bta would make it worse for casual and new players as no one would pass much and once they outfitted all their characters they would much less likely to run those raids

[bloodnose13]

some things (like raid stuff, epic seals, shards) should still be btc but instead binds on acuire, they could be binds on leaveing quest, that way it would allow tradeing item if someone picks something by mistake or simply tradeing it to another player.


----bit offtopic--------
what i would personaly love to see, a new ritual to remove binding and attuning ritual from items along with all effects added atop on it, i stopped doing that most of time as of the problem of getting stuck with item that i may want to swap to other char later

[JOTMON]

some things (like raid stuff, epic seals, shards) should still be btc but instead binds on acuire, they could be binds on leaveing quest, that way it would allow tradeing item if someone picks something by mistake or simply tradeing it to another player.


----bit offtopic--------
what i would personaly love to see, a new ritual to remove binding and attuning ritual from items along with all effects added atop on it, i stopped doing that most of time as of the problem of getting stuck with item that i may want to swap to other char later

Epic shards and seals are BTA, the raid items are BTC on acquire.

I would disagree with the bind on leave quest, opens up too many griefing opportunities like multiple people rolling on a item to give to a friend/guildie that had a bad roll and then secretly passing to them once pulled from the chest, or winning a roll when you dont need it and selling to another party member while in the quest, instead of fair roll (what the person who had it drop for them in the chest but did not need and put up for roll had intended).


as to the off topic part....
Binding a item is a concious choice to prevent it from taking permanent damage and enhancing it with a alchemical bonus at the cost of binding of character. I think this should be left as it is.... Dont want permanent daamage on that bloodstone, you can bind it, or risk the damage and keep it free to trade about.

[bloodnose13]

Epic shards and seals are BTA, the raid items are BTC on acquire.

I would disagree with the bind on leave quest, opens up too many griefing opportunities like multiple people rolling on a item to give to a friend/guildie that had a bad roll and then secretly passing to them once pulled from the chest, or winning a roll when you dont need it and selling to another party member while in the quest, instead of fair roll (what the person who had it drop for them in the chest but did not need and put up for roll had intended).


as to the off topic part....
Binding a item is a concious choice to prevent it from taking permanent damage and enhancing it with a alchemical bonus at the cost of binding of character. I think this should be left as it is.... Dont want permanent daamage on that bloodstone, you can bind it, or risk the damage and keep it free to trade about.

i typed in my thought bit wrong, but nvm, its details...

there is always griefing chance, but that at least would give chance to correct some errors with assigning rolled items, for example someone rolls for item and that item gets swapped to other person that without even looking hits loot all, such change would allow giveing item back to correct person, its just theoretical thought.

as for binding, raid items have to be BTC, that should not change

as for off topic part heh
im pretty sure there is lot of ppl that feel otherwise looking at some neat not originaly bound items they dont use anymore that clutter bank becouse they are attuned and cant be swapped to other char.

[Chette]

I absolutely do NOT agree.

The whole idea of BTC raid loot is that you need to run that raid on the character that you want the item on. The prospect of being able to create a character today, cap it tomorrow, and then outfit it with the exact same gear that you're wearing on your 10x TRed 4 year old character is laughable.

Developing and gearing your character should take work. Work that THAT character should have to do. No work that your completionist caster does so that your gimp characters can just sit around and reap the rewards.

Removing BTC rewards from the game will also mean the end of loot sharing, the end of putting ANYTHING up for roll. Just pulled a staff of the petitioner on my barbarian after the three divines basically completed the raid for me? Well heck, I might make a cleric one day, I'll just hold on to that...

No. Loot sharing and the collective helpful attitude of most (not all!) players is what makes DDO fun, and what sets it apart from other games. This would destroy it and is an awful idea.

[Silverwren]

I can't sign on to this.

There are some things that MUST remain BTC, such as Shavarath Stones from Vale quests for example. My level 20 wizard shouldn't be able to give things like that to my level 14 ranger, who hasn't earned them.

That's not to say I wouldn't like my higher level toons to be able to give BTC items to my lower level toons. I would, but it wouldn't be right.