Veteran Status II

[falcon2030]

Update:
I exited out of the game and relogged to see if it reset--> nope
I then recreated the character to check to se if I could reset (just incase because I was already in teh Korthos chain) --> nope still end up in Korthos not on boat;

Then I bought Vet I and recreated the character --> now have Vet II and can chose to start at lvl 1, 4 or 7.

Conclusion, apparently you must have Vet I for Vet II to work you cannot just buy Vet II. DEV's: if this is WAI I would reconsider the pricing, a comparable price to Vet I would seem more on point considering the combined cost accrued. if Not WAI please look into this.

[Rumbaar]

I think Vet II should allow TR's to start at L4 as a perk.

[~rachealgoss]

Bought Vet status 7 and rolled up a toon - everything worked fine during the creation. Got my gear for her and noticed a few things

1 she got the chocolate 6 year birthday cake
2 she got the cake of wishes
3 she got a BtA sibreys cake and still got the BtC one from Korthos

in line with these items - all my toons here got the 6year cake but no one got the cake of wishes. Was this supposed to happen this way?
Also a BtA sibreys cake? I can see this being exploited readily by creating and deleting 100 toons and never needing to purchase them again. Its a great bonus to starting at that level but it should probably be looked at a little closer and BtC or just not be included - you can still get the one free one from kothos.

[Iwant_DiabloThree]

The whole notion that a brand new, just created toon, who has never seen a kobold or met up with his first dragon can bypass the first 6 levels of the game while a TR who "Remembers a bit about his prior lives" must start at level 1 befuddles me.
A new toon who does not have a real need to have an expanded bank account yet can get right to work on getting his new slots, while a TR has to wait and run countless, what I like to call Training Quests, just to get to the right level to even start getting House K favor. Personally I would have liked Vet II to allow a TR to start at level 4, but that's just my opinion and my wife long ago taught me the true value of my opinion

As a new player to Lamannia I was just enlightened as to why I am only finding parties to run with on Lamannia that are, well let's just say they are unacceptable, and it is forcing me to solo everything and live without doing epic runs on the new content, if any of you reading this are part of the circle of players that I am seeking please drop me a line.
I am on the G server if you wish to look up my stats before extending me an invitation.

[MartinusWyllt]

Also a BtA sibreys cake? I can see this being exploited readily by creating and deleting 100 toons and never needing to purchase them again. Its a great bonus to starting at that level but it should probably be looked at a little closer and BtC or just not be included - you can still get the one free one from kothos.

My guess is that if there are BtA cakes handed out it will be a 1-time only event.

[Sleepsalot]

I have rolled up 4 level 7 toons they did not get any Cakes of any sort.. But upon doing a Reincarnation on one,, the Cakes and other items appeared in the Pack..

Sleeps

Bought Vet status 7 and rolled up a toon - everything worked fine during the creation. Got my gear for her and noticed a few things

1 she got the chocolate 6 year birthday cake
2 she got the cake of wishes
3 she got a BtA sibreys cake and still got the BtC one from Korthos

in line with these items - all my toons here got the 6year cake but no one got the cake of wishes. Was this supposed to happen this way?
Also a BtA sibreys cake? I can see this being exploited readily by creating and deleting 100 toons and never needing to purchase them again. Its a great bonus to starting at that level but it should probably be looked at a little closer and BtC or just not be included - you can still get the one free one from kothos.

[GentlemanAndAScholar]

My main issue with Veteran 7 is basically the same qualm (and turned out to be true, in my experience) as Vet status 4. For seasoned players (assuming they aren't just TRing one of their toons) pop another toon to experiment, sure, 4 levels (and now 7) come handy. However, for the novice it is a really, really, really bad thing. I'm not sure what triggered you to think that giving the option to start at lvl7 could be good for the game population skill. There already is a lot of skill disparity from those whose have been playing this game for years and those who are trying the game or have begun a subscription. You spent a lot of resources in getting people somewhat ready via the Korthos story line and then "graduating" to the Harbor. With the availability of Vet4 (via store or 1000 fav), I get the sense many players are skipping that crucial part of their early DDO skills. That's when you get 70HP lvl 10 toons or lvl 11 rogues with 19 Search. And this skill disparity is pretty much the reason there are so many private channels dedicated to TRing or just plain ol' questing/raiding. Now that's going to be even more painfully obvious when you could get a lvl7 toon with literally zero experience and starter gear. That thought will cause many people (including myself) to be even more hesitant to taken any pugger off the LFM panel. This will only enforce the private chat channels and this will only grow the proverbial skill chasm between the true veterans and those who are new to the game. This could not be good for the game long term. Splitting the population is that way will only cause discontent and make the game very much unenjoyable for those new players who do not have neither the gear, nor a circle of in-game friends.

My 2c.

[MartinusWyllt]

Someone completely new would have to level a toon to 7 first in order to buy vet II from the store and they'd have to buy vet I first, right?

Not that getting 7 is hard, but everyone would have had at least seen Korthos at least once at 1st level.

Vet II would be very useful in going higher than 100 favor on every server.

[Kokanee]

My main issue with Veteran 7 is basically the same qualm (and turned out to be true, in my experience) as Vet status 4. For seasoned players (assuming they aren't just TRing one of their toons) pop another toon to experiment, sure, 4 levels (and now 7) come handy. However, for the novice it is a really, really, really bad thing. I'm not sure what triggered you to think that giving the option to start at lvl7 could be good for the game population skill. There already is a lot of skill disparity from those whose have been playing this game for years and those who are trying the game or have begun a subscription. You spent a lot of resources in getting people somewhat ready via the Korthos story line and then "graduating" to the Harbor. With the availability of Vet4 (via store or 1000 fav), I get the sense many players are skipping that crucial part of their early DDO skills. That's when you get 70HP lvl 10 toons or lvl 11 rogues with 19 Search. And this skill disparity is pretty much the reason there are so many private channels dedicated to TRing or just plain ol' questing/raiding. Now that's going to be even more painfully obvious when you could get a lvl7 toon with literally zero experience and starter gear. That thought will cause many people (including myself) to be even more hesitant to taken any pugger off the LFM panel. This will only enforce the private chat channels and this will only grow the proverbial skill chasm between the true veterans and those who are new to the game. This could not be good for the game long term. Splitting the population is that way will only cause discontent and make the game very much unenjoyable for those new players who do not have neither the gear, nor a circle of in-game friends.

My 2c.

Some of your arguments are valid however, having this option in ddo store is not going to really change the learning curve of the game.

This will be really good for:
1- the mid to high level and veterans to experiment on new build more easily.
2- People with many TR's to easily create Mules to store the BTA stuff.
3- The casual players that wish to gain an "edge" and spend less time getting up to speed on new toons.
4- Favor Farmers - People will quickly regain the TP spent and easily fly through early content to get easy Favor.

I don't really believe that there will be many "Korthos-Fresh" people buying this.

[btakeo]

it seems like people are missing a small detail about the vet 2 and the xp tomes. in other games, when an expansion comes out that includes a level cap raise and new high level content, most games will do something to increase the speed of getting through the low levels/old content in order to get more people into the new content faster. its been like this in any game i can ever remember playing that had an expansion like the one coming this summer.

i know the level cap has been raised here multiple times, but you didnt have to purchase an expansion to play the new higher level content. they didnt have a reason to speed people through before like they do now.

[Burtle]

I know it's been a few days since the last post..but for some reason the Mino has stolen my gear and refuses to give it back, (I can't collect my belongings from the Minotaur crewman) any thoughts?

[Sleepsalot]

Yes it is a Known issues listed here http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=178590

Sleeps

I know it's been a few days since the last post..but for some reason the Mino has stolen my gear and refuses to give it back, (I can't collect my belongings from the Minotaur crewman) any thoughts?

[-Zephyr-]

I know it's been a few days since the last post..but for some reason the Mino has stolen my gear and refuses to give it back, (I can't collect my belongings from the Minotaur crewman) any thoughts?

Look at the known issues list. Vet status cannot complete because of the Minautor.
You either have to start on Korthos, or /death, use a teleport rod to get out of the ship.

[Burtle]

Look at the known issues list. Vet status cannot complete because of the Minautor.
You either have to start on Korthos, or /death, use a teleport rod to get out of the ship.

but..but...no nifty gear???

[HernandoCortez]

Looks like they will give lvl 7s better gear. Thats good.

[indigokid]

quick question - if I buy VetII in Lamannia, do I get it on the rest of the servers as well (whenever it goes live), or am I wasting TP?

[Failedlegend]

quick question - if I buy VetII in Lamannia, do I get it on the rest of the servers as well (whenever it goes live), or am I wasting TP?

No you don't get it and lamma has a separate TP pool...you get free tp there as well so your not wasting

[Sleepsalot]

And right now the ship is messed up you have to start at level 1 if you want off the ship.. With out typing /death or using a teleport rod.
Sleeps

quick question - if I buy VetII in Lamannia, do I get it on the rest of the servers as well (whenever it goes live), or am I wasting TP?

[indigokid]

No you don't get it and lamma has a separate TP pool...you get free tp there as well so your not wasting

How do I get enough TP to buy it? it shows I only have about 700? Where does it get this amount from? I have more TP on other servers.

[Bekki]

As of right now, this is not functioning as intended!

Mostly since nobody is able to do it.

Stay tuned for further information.



**** Further Information *****

This is now available to be poked at via the DDO store as well as those who have the favor capable of unlocking it!

Morning KookieKobold,

I was wondering, with Veterans status II, would have to go to Level 7 exclusively?
Or could you stop at any point between Lvl 4 and 7?

I love the option to hit Level 7 put of the gate; that sounds AWESOME!
But I don't want to be locked in to Level 7... As I do like running the lower level stuff.

I would still like the option to go 1st level, 4th level, or 7th...
Or maybe any level between 4 and 7...

That would be sweet...

Thanks for the hard work!