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    Default Suggestion on revamping favor/rewards

    The favor/reward progression is odd.
    currently:
    400 - drow
    1000 - vet.
    1750 - BTC +2tome
    2500 - Favored Soul
    3000 - vet tier 2

    My suggestion:
    500 - drow
    1000 - vet tier 1
    1500 - BTC +2 tome
    2000 - favored soul
    2500 - BTC +3 tome
    3000 - vet tier 2
    3500 - BTC +4 tome
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    That would be nice. Helps make favour a bit more desirable to get on each life.

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    Don't forget, 1750 favor is 32-point builds as well.
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    What is vet tier 2, and is it in play already? I see no mention of it on DDOwiki.

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    Veteran Tier 2 is being introduced with Update 13. It is not yet on the live servers.

    It functions like Veteran Status, except that players who have it begin play at level 7, instead of level 4.

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    Another part of the problem is that some of those rewards (vet, drow, FvS) are one and done.

    Once you get 2500 and unlock FvS (3k and Vet lvl 7) there's no reason to ever do it again. I think I'd rather always have useful goals.


    500 - Server Drow Unlock, Choice: BTC +2 tome or Impressive Victory (+1000 renown)
    1000 - Server 32pt Build Unlock, Tiny Guild Trophy (+1500 renown)
    1500 - Small Guild Trophy (+2500 renown)
    2000 - Server Favored Soul Unlock, Choic: BTC +3 tome or Medium Guild Trophy (+4000 renown)
    2500 - Large Guild Trophy (+6000 renown)
    3000 - Server Vet Level 7 Unlock, Huge Guild Trophy (+10000 renown)
    3500 - Choice: BTC +4 tome or Mammoth Guild Trophy (+15000 renown)


    And Vet Level 7 should be changed to: All new characters on this server receive a BtC 150k XP cookie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFister View Post
    And Vet Level 7 should be changed to: All new characters on this server receive a BtC 150k XP cookie.
    Ya, but then people could save it, possibly across TR'ing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diyon View Post
    Ya, but then people could save it, possibly across TR'ing.
    Yes. Now please explain how this is a problem. I couldn't come up with one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaldais View Post
    The favor/reward progression is odd.
    currently:
    400 - drow
    1000 - vet.
    1750 - BTC +2tome
    2500 - Favored Soul
    3000 - vet tier 2

    My suggestion:
    500 - drow
    1000 - vet tier 1
    1500 - BTC +2 tome
    2000 - favored soul
    2500 - BTC +3 tome
    3000 - vet tier 2
    3500 - BTC +4 tome
    It's an improvement but make those tomes BTA instead so us altaholics won't have so many freebie tomes go to waste when TRing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baervan View Post
    tomes go to waste when TRing.
    Oh, you're so last week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baervan View Post
    It's an improvement but make those tomes BTA instead so us altaholics won't have so many freebie tomes go to waste when TRing.
    Remember that Heroic Deeds that seems to slip it's way onto things like 20th raid reward lists and Tome of Legend turn-ins?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesuvium View Post
    Veteran Tier 2 is being introduced with Update 13. It is not yet on the live servers.

    It functions like Veteran Status, except that players who have it begin play at level 7, instead of level 4.
    When this is introduced will we get the option to leave the vet ship at any level this would do alot for introducing new players to the game as I could just make a character the same level as watever they are.
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    I would add a +1 tome at some earlier level. I think a +4 tome on favor is pushing too far, since they are a rare loot in endgame raids. +3 is fine since now they can drop on random chests in epics.

    Some time ago I suggested to add +1 tomes at 1000 and +3 tomes at 2500. I also liked MrFister's suggestion of free guild renown at some total favor tiers.

    For people that will ride the TR train and have no reason to stockpile tomes anymore, remember that you can still convert the tomes to purified eberron dragonshards for crafting. And if you don't craft, at least they are thick enough to hold a door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceTheHoon View Post
    Oh, you're so last week.
    I think you misunderstand my meaning.

    As it stands most veteran players will have used +2 tomes on most if not all of their stats by the time they are awarded the freebie +2 tome. U13 will make this even moreso with wasted BTC freebie tomes awarded every time you TR. Having them bound to account you could at least pass them on to alts.

    Another favor reward in lieu of the tomes might be to offer up similar value store items like stacks of XP pots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaldais View Post
    The favor/reward progression is odd.
    currently:
    400 - drow
    1000 - vet.
    1750 - BTC +2tome
    2500 - Favored Soul
    3000 - vet tier 2

    My suggestion:
    500 - drow
    1000 - vet tier 1
    1500 - BTC +2 tome
    2000 - favored soul
    2500 - BTC +3 tome
    3000 - vet tier 2
    3500 - BTC +4 tome
    I would so be grinding out 35000 Favour on every character if that were to be true. Which would mean I would need to buy more packs... Which means I need more TP... And Turbine makes more money.

    Not seeing a major downside here. Though maybe the +4 tome favour requirement should be increased to 4000ish, and a +1 tome at 750 favour or something, to help out newer players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesuvium View Post
    Veteran Tier 2 is being introduced with Update 13. It is not yet on the live servers.

    It functions like Veteran Status, except that players who have it begin play at level 7, instead of level 4.
    This would be a lot more attractive if Vet Tier 2 also allowed True Reincarnated characters to begin play at level 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sephiroth1084 View Post
    This would be a lot more attractive if Vet Tier 2 also allowed True Reincarnated characters to begin play at level 4.
    Many good ideas and some oversight on my part, here's a rephrased suggestion

    Favor/reward
    500 - drow(choice of BTC +1 tome/500 renown/minor xp pot for those who already attained veteran status)
    1000 - veteran tier 1 (choice of BTA +1 tome/1500 renown/minor xp pot for those who already attained veteran status)
    1500 - 32 pointer (choice of BTC +2 tome/2500 renown/lesser xp pot)
    2000 - favored soul (choice of BTA +2 tome/4000 renown/greater xp pot)
    2500 - veteran tier 1 for TR (choice of BTC +3 tome/6000 renown/major xp pot)
    3000 - veteran tier 2(choice of BTA +3 tome/8000 renown/major xp pot/True druidic heart of the wood)
    3500 - druid?(choice of BTC +4 tome/10000 renown/3 major xp pot/True druidic heart of the wood)
    Shriners

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaldais View Post
    Many good ideas and some oversight on my part, here's a rephrased suggestion

    Favor/reward
    500 - drow(choice of BTC +1 tome/500 renown/minor xp pot for those who already attained veteran status)
    1000 - veteran tier 1 (choice of BTA +1 tome/1500 renown/minor xp pot for those who already attained veteran status)
    1500 - 32 pointer (choice of BTC +2 tome/2500 renown/lesser xp pot)
    2000 - favored soul (choice of BTA +2 tome/4000 renown/greater xp pot)
    2500 - veteran tier 1 for TR (choice of BTC +3 tome/6000 renown/major xp pot)
    3000 - veteran tier 2(choice of BTA +3 tome/8000 renown/major xp pot/True druidic heart of the wood)
    3500 - druid?(choice of BTC +4 tome/10000 renown/3 major xp pot/True druidic heart of the wood)
    I like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    I like it

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