U13 -> Tomes kept through TRing

[dkyle]

I'll be checking as soon as I can tonight.

Got a feeling the price of tomes is going to drop by a lot on the AH now - I know I've got at least 10 +2s, spread out over different characters (that I've been saving for TRing) that I won't need any more...

Yeah, I'm actually very surprised they went as far as they did. I only seriously argued for Raid-loot tomes being kept. I thought for sure they wouldn't want to reduce the market for Store tomes. But hey, I'm not complaining.

[Havok.cry]

Is it sad that when I read that in the release notes I thought, "I better wait until it's confirmed as working before I use my +3 tomes on the toon I aim to TR since it probably won't be implemented correctly"?

Let me say I am really excited about this change and hope it works correctly.

I'm not gonna eat mine till it is LIVE and confirmed working.

[Dandonk]

Love this change, no more stockpiling tomes for that hypothetical final life. Yay!!

[danotmano1998]

To the person responsible for making Tomes continue on through a TR:


HUGE thank you.

(And a small, quiet prayer that it Works As Intended.)

Finally! I can eat those really cool couple of tomes I have been loathe to use until I'm absolutely certain I won't be TR'ing. (Just as soon as this new feature is proven to actually work.)

[Mat59765]

You're assuming pale lavander and/or vibrant purple will have the same drop rate as the useless ones hehe.

it says 100% chance for everythign so yeah they will have the same drop rate, 100%

[dkyle]

it says 100% chance for everythign so yeah they will have the same drop rate, 100%

100% chance for what drops in the end rewards already. It doesn't give the chance for special new rewards. My reading is that the 3rd-run end reward for Dreaming Dark will gain a 100% chance at an Ioun stone, but only one. Which one it is is unspecified. Presumably, an equal chance at all of them, but it's possible they'll weight the chances according to their assessment of desirability.

[Aelonwy]

Yeah, I'm actually very surprised they went as far as they did. I only seriously argued for Raid-loot tomes being kept. I thought for sure they wouldn't want to reduce the market for Store tomes. But hey, I'm not complaining.

They didn't exactly reduce the market for store tomes. Look at it this way... if you were planning to TR or multi TR an alt would you be willing to waste TP/money on a tome that would disappear? Now say you are planning to TR/multi TR a favorite character would you be willing to put the money down on tomes knowing you'd get to keep them throughout the course of that alts entire existence? Hell yeah! I'd pay for that convenience! But no money from me till I know its working properly.

[Kilnedric]

They didn't exactly reduce the market for store tomes. Look at it this way... if you were planning to TR or multi TR an alt would you be willing to waste TP/money on a tome that would disappear? Now say you are planning to TR/multi TR a favorite character would you be willing to put the money down on tomes knowing you'd get to keep them throughout the course of that alts entire existence? Hell yeah! I'd pay for that convenience! But no money from me till I know its working properly.

This is the way I was thinking about it too.

[Redicular]

But no money from me till I know its working properly.

this line is why it should be pre-eaten tomes, who is gonna be the first to try the feature when its known that if it doesn't work, you won't be reimbursed for the lost tome.

I have a character that's eaten a store supreme ability 2, since i've already acquired the replacement tomes I'll need for next life, I'll be willing to test for live. But no way i'd buy a new tome to test on live.

[Vordax]

it says 100% chance for everythign so yeah they will have the same drop rate, 100%

Re-read the release note:

Completing the final quest in this series three times (and every third time thereafter) will offer players a single random Ioun Stone, crafting items, and random loot from its end reward list.

It is still possible that the pale lavender has a .01% drop rate and the spot/listen one has a 97% drop rate.

Vordax

[Saravis]

You're assuming pale lavander and/or vibrant purple will have the same drop rate as the useless ones hehe.

Heh, even if that is the case, its still a significant boost in obtain-ability. Before you really couldn't farm an ioun stone as they could drop absolutely anywhere without any rhyme or reason. Now with a specific means of obtaining, they'll be much easier to get; theoretically speaking.

[ArcaneMelee]

After waiting for what seemed like forever, I finally TR'ed a clonk that had eaten a +3 dex tome, giving up on tomes being retained.

The new build started with a 14 Dex, and I was willing to use a level-up at 16 to qualify for iTWF/gTWF with a +2 tome.

Now I'm willing to buy a +3 Dex tome from the store. Thanks, Turbine.

[Atremus]

Was anyone able to confirm this works on Lam?

Understand it's been only a few hours

[Truga]

Bleh who cares if you can create a new toon at level 7. If you have 3000 Favor you are probably not too worried about banging out another 3 levels on a non-TR lowbie.

I just want to point out that firewall is available at level 7 to wizards.

Edit: I'm also betting 4000 favour will grant level 10 veteran status :P

[BlackSteel]

tome retention is great news, I'm so tired of losing those bad boys.

my main has lost a full set of +3's when Tr'ing was first released, 2 +4's with 4 +2s, and a supreme +3 store tome. What can I say? I just get bored afterawhile at cap.

[slimkj]

I think I may cry manly tears of joy.

Heh, me too. Any chest has a chance of tome pages? Yes please!

[NaturalHazard]

Now I feel justified looting that +4 tome I pulled in TOD on my main who is a melee............... .

Just curious how will it work? when you tr will the tome be in your bank for reuse? or will the ability stay on permanant? Im guessing the ability wont be permanant cause thats way op having +4 stats at level 1 for example esp +4 int for skills.

[voodoogroves]

Now I feel justified looting that +4 tome I pulled in TOD on my main who is a melee............... .

Just curious how will it work? when you tr will the tome be in your bank for reuse? or will the ability stay on permanant? Im guessing the ability wont be permanant cause thats way op having +4 stats at level 1 for example esp +4 int for skills.

It looks like from the testing in the other thread that they are applied passively as you level.

+1 at 3rd
+2 at 7th
etc.

So if you ate a +4 you can expect an automatic add at the appropriate levels - similar to how a tome is applied if you LR.

[Tsuarok]

It looks like from the testing in the other thread that they are applied passively as you level.

+1 at 3rd
+2 at 7th
etc.

So if you ate a +4 you can expect an automatic add at the appropriate levels - similar to how a tome is applied if you LR.

cool. This is the ideal implementation I think.

[dudulinka]

Now I feel justified looting that +4 tome I pulled in TOD on my main who is a melee............... .

Just curious how will it work? when you tr will the tome be in your bank for reuse? or will the ability stay on permanant? Im guessing the ability wont be permanant cause thats way op having +4 stats at level 1 for example esp +4 int for skills.

most likely if u have eaten +1 tomes in all abilities, +2 and +3, the inherent bonuses will appear auto as following:
+1 at level 3
+2 at level 7
+3 at level 11
but if u have eaten only +3 tomes ull get inherent bonus +3 at level 11... u wont get +1 at level 3 or +2 at level 7.
This should be the way.