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    Community Member Gizeh's Avatar
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    Default is artificer knowledge bugged?

    Currently my artificer has a UMD of +28. Combined with Artificer Knowledge: Wands that's UMD +30 to activate a wand. But while the tool tip on my wand of cure critical wounds says it has a 105% chance to activate, it still fails occasionally.

    Since it is a divine wand, it cannot be due to spell failure from wearing armor (0% for me anyway), and it isn't skill focus: UMD either - that one works fine on my rogue. The UMD skill enhancements are directly added to the skill, so my guess it is Artificer Knowledge that does not work properly.

    Has anyone else noticed this?

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    The 105% is a display bug, you actually only have a 95% chance, the artificer knowledge is getting double counted in the percentage. Look at this post.

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    Display bug or not, I should have a 100% chance to use the cure crit wand:

    My UMD is 18 (ranks) +4 (enhancements) +3 (skill focus) +1 (charisma) +1 (artificer skill mastery) +1 (voice of the master) = 28.

    The DC for using the wand is 30, and I will roll at least 28 (skill) +2 (artificer knowledge) +1 (die roll) =31, and rolling a 1 on a skill roll is not an automatic fail in this game.

    So either the enhancements or artificer knowledge do not work properly.

    Edit: and I just checked ingame to make sure: when I use the wand, the die roll that is displayed is x+28, so it seems that arti knowledge isn't added to the roll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizeh View Post
    Display bug or not, I should have a 100% chance to use the cure crit wand:

    My UMD is 18 (ranks) +4 (enhancements) +3 (skill focus) +1 (charisma) +1 (artificer skill mastery) +1 (voice of the master) = 28.

    The DC for using the wand is 30, and I will roll at least 28 (skill) +2 (artificer knowledge) +1 (die roll) =31, and rolling a 1 on a skill roll is not an automatic fail in this game.

    So either the enhancements or artificer knowledge do not work properly.

    Edit: and I just checked ingame to make sure: when I use the wand, the die roll that is displayed is x+28, so it seems that arti knowledge isn't added to the roll.
    The DC to use the wand is actually 32, the DC is being lowered by 2 to 30 due to artificer knowledge.

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    I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizeh View Post
    I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
    The way this information is displayed could definitely use some work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordax View Post
    Look at this post.

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    That explains a lot. I was starting to think rolling a '1' was UMD autofail as well.

    So you actually need the display to read 110% to have a 100% chance to UMD something as an arti?

    The hits keep coming... :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordax View Post
    The way this information is displayed could definitely use some work.

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    Yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Postumus View Post
    That explains a lot. I was starting to think rolling a '1' was UMD autofail as well.

    So you actually need the display to read 110% to have a 100% chance to UMD something as an arti?

    The hits keep coming... :P
    basically, yes. but it actually happens no later than anyone else (and in fact is quite likely to be earlier).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaid314 View Post
    basically, yes. but it actually happens no later than anyone else (and in fact is quite likely to be earlier).
    I know, but it's still another display error for which I have to remember the correction... which makes it annoying.

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    This would go some way to explaining why my displayed 75% chance of success with teleport and raise dead would be working around 1 in 3 times, rather than only failing 1 in 3 times.

    Honestly. One of the best things about DnD on the computer is that the computer takes care of the maths for me. I shouldn't have to do it myself. I play PnP for that.
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