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    Quote Originally Posted by Healsavant View Post
    War has been putting these together for many many weeks now consistently, thats why its being termed as a Gravis run, and there are usually more Players from his guild in these runs. And to be honest it isnt just the LOB they are responsible for. I tr'd Healsavant my cleric for the sole purpose of being an LOB tank, and he had 0 gear for tanking. after I hit 20, the whole of Gravis chipped in every way possible to hep get the gear and scrolls I needed, and within 1 week I had everything i needed to hit that 80 base intim. 3pc abi set, 2 pc claw set, my trinket that gives 22 intim!!! The only thing I didnt have was the hound shield which I literally pulled 10 mins before the LOB epic run, and that was almost all Gravis as well. That being said they put in a lot more work to make it happen than just 1 run. Also thank you Chervanic for all the farming help as well, He helped with my farming efforts getting items as well, dont wanna leave anyone out.
    Apart from intimi items like epic brawn spirit, a epic LoB tank DOESNT require real gear like an AC toon. I hotswap almost all my gear on thazok to crafted stuff (+5 adamantine holy burst tower shield of GCB). A random tower shield will block more damages on epic LoB than a Levik's or Lorrik's i think and is basically easier to get =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshan View Post
    Apart from intimi items like epic brawn spirit, a epic LoB tank DOESNT require real gear like an AC toon. I hotswap almost all my gear on thazok to crafted stuff (+5 adamantine holy burst tower shield of GCB). A random tower shield will block more damages on epic LoB than a Levik's or Lorrik's i think and is basically easier to get =)
    doest require real gear? ok......paladin NOT the highest DPS by far, i think we can agree on that...ok claw set, gloves and bracers give 20 percent threat, 30 percent healing amp, +4 damage and exceptional con 2....why the heck would I need that set, why not just go with ac bracers and str gloves.....now on to the abi set.....Helm gives +7 cha, now sure who needs the helm when u could have the cloak or ring of silver concord right? well I need the extra +1 cha to even out my cha, so it has to be 1, but no room in cloak nor ring spot, Env cloak...think this is self explanatory but just in case you didnt know its +7 con and has a decent little guard on it, boots of corrosion...sure I could wear the cannith boots, but in the interest of making my toon more effective I decided to go with the +3 profane str the boots would give by wearing all 3 pcs, OH also a nice disentegration guard...BTW these guards are nice to help my hate...just in case you werent sure how that worked. OF course the Brawns spirtis....+22 intim on 1 item is a great decision for anyone thats using intim. Also I seemed to have fortooten to mention al the slots these epic items carry for my +6 wis, GFL,+1 exceptional cha, toughness etc....Your opinion doesnt carry much weight with me, create and run your tank through elob all geared for a normal shroud with 600 hp and get back with me, I didnt want an average tank, I wanted a tank that could handle the job at hand, and that requires gear... but anyway thanks for trolling by...I mean stopping by.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshan View Post
    Apart from intimi items like epic brawn spirit, a epic LoB tank DOESNT require real gear like an AC toon. I hotswap almost all my gear on thazok to crafted stuff (+5 adamantine holy burst tower shield of GCB). A random tower shield will block more damages on epic LoB than a Levik's or Lorrik's i think and is basically easier to get =)
    Mithral Tower shields have 9 dr....... Leviks has 15 DR, sonic guard and a healing proc that taps me for around 170 hp when it goes off. nuff said methinks.

    The comment I made was to give credit where credit was due, without that help we would not have completed. I have been in there many many times and every "average" tank failed miserably, that old tod/vod tank will not cut it in elob....sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaap-Kous-za View Post

    We Completed in 104 minutes for the 3rd completion on the server and only the second guild on the server to get a completion after caffeine.
    for all those telling me I'm wrong 'second guild' in order for u to say its your guild completion id think youd want to have a majority of the group in your guild... for instance... if i put a lob group together and all the people are in different guilds it is not a 'Nerdrage completion' it is a completion never the less. not bashing on gravis im just saying saying its your guild completion when you didnt have a majority of your guild in there is mindless epeen stroking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by totabc View Post
    for all those telling me I'm wrong 'second guild' in order for u to say its your guild completion id think youd want to have a majority of the group in your guild... for instance... if i put a lob group together and all the people are in different guilds it is not a 'Nerdrage completion' it is a completion never the less. not bashing on gravis im just saying saying its your guild completion when you didnt have a majority of your guild in there is mindless epeen stroking.
    they had 6, War, Bazer, sweet, Duradan, Halloff, Grobb.....definite majority
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    Quote Originally Posted by Healsavant View Post
    they had 6, War, Bazer, sweet, Duradan, Halloff, Grobb.....definite majority
    6/12 is still not the majority, use your dictionary bro.

    better yet here is the definition for you, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/majority
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    Quote Originally Posted by Healsavant View Post
    Mithral Tower shields have 9 dr....... Leviks has 15 DR, sonic guard and a healing proc that taps me for around 170 hp when it goes off. nuff said methinks.

    The comment I made was to give credit where credit was due, without that help we would not have completed. I have been in there many many times and every "average" tank failed miserably, that old tod/vod tank will not cut it in elob....sorry
    EDITED for stupid mistake of mine (see next post) : Though, I still prefer crafted + 5 adamantine holy burst tower shield of GCB over Levik, for it grants :

    - Holy burst + DR breaking + Greater Construct Bane
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    - 6 DR, sonic guard, Healing guard

    General actual edit, canceling a bunch of stupid things freshly out of my mind

    To put it in a nutshell, and changing my mind then, both are in my opinion 2 great shields.
    I would say it depends on the kind of run you are doing. I personnaly want all dps out, ESPECIALLY DOTS, since less time is usually equal to less ressources used, so a DR breaking shield basically grants a slightly better aggro, affording the 15 seconds cooldown on intimidate to wear off.
    On the other hand, if you just want to go purely for safe completion, i guess levikk is fine.
    Personnaly using an "anchoring tacitc", based on the highest threaded doter that i make stand almost on me, so that LoB runs on him, thus on me on resets, so i can just have to click intimidate (no moving = perma shield blocking = no mournland and so and so).

    2 shields, 2 approaches of the quest i guess. I'm brutal, my friends are brutal, so we like it hard, and fast is possible. Dirty is a bonus we dont mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshan View Post
    Tower shield blocks 25% dmg, while Levikks (large shield) will block 20%, then the DR applies. Knowing LoB hits on epic for like 14D20 + 22 or something like that.
    you are confusing levik with lorrik

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Levik%27s_Defender


    is is infact best DR shield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavek View Post
    you are confusing levik with lorrik

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Levik%27s_Defender


    is is infact best DR shield
    Thus, updating previous message. I still prefer DR breaking the LoB for 6 less DR tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshan View Post
    EDITED for stupid mistake of mine (see next post) : Though, I still prefer crafted + 5 adamantine holy burst tower shield of GCB over Levik, for it grants :

    - Holy burst + DR breaking + Greater Construct Bane
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    - 6 DR, sonic guard, Healing guard

    General actual edit, canceling a bunch of stupid things freshly out of my mind

    To put it in a nutshell, and changing my mind then, both are in my opinion 2 great shields.
    I would say it depends on the kind of run you are doing. I personnaly want all dps out, ESPECIALLY DOTS, since less time is usually equal to less ressources used, so a DR breaking shield basically grants a slightly better aggro, affording the 15 seconds cooldown on intimidate to wear off.
    On the other hand, if you just want to go purely for safe completion, i guess levikk is fine.
    Personnaly using an "anchoring tacitc", based on the highest threaded doter that i make stand almost on me, so that LoB runs on him, thus on me on resets, so i can just have to click intimidate (no moving = perma shield blocking = no mournland and so and so).

    2 shields, 2 approaches of the quest i guess. I'm brutal, my friends are brutal, so we like it hard, and fast is possible. Dirty is a bonus we dont mind
    I am a pure paladin, always good damage, have arti, bard or anyone with UMD cast adamantine weapons and I got all the DR breaking you have AND the guard and the healing and the extra 6 dr you lack, im pretty sure the shield you made has a base damage of 1d6, the leviks has a base damage of 1d12. DPS is not a problem for me even DOT's, since I planned my character out. tell ya what after YOU actually tank epic lob on that tank of yours quit trolling, come back and add something to this post when you actually have ran or even attempted to run the quest and have some semblance of what you are talking about. I have myddo'd your toon and you will fail i guarantee it. The gauntlet is laid down go prove me wrong, go show me how dirty you like it, really please do, because the LOB will get dirtier than that toon of yours....
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    Quote Originally Posted by totabc View Post
    6/12 is still not the majority, use your dictionary bro.

    better yet here is the definition for you, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/majority
    seriously? ok Englorious Basteurds had 1
    Caffeine had 1

    do I really have to go on???

    4. the party or faction with the majority vote: The Democratic party is the majority.
    direct excerpt from YOUR dictionary link.....Gravis Negotium had the majority of players, not caffeine, not EB, etc....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshan View Post
    Thus, updating previous message. I still prefer DR breaking the LoB for 6 less DR tho
    I have FULL dr breaking with leviks.....what other excuse now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Healsavant View Post
    I have myddo'd your toon and you will fail i guarantee it. T
    I happen to hotswap some gear You know when you replace a piece of gear by another by clicking on it usually on your hotbar. Ok that was pure trolling
    If i dont move it back it remains like that though. But if you want some number when i'm on epic LoB it is with 950ish HP, 55+ reflex, 25% dmg mit and 29 DR (u win on that one, you save 6 more damages) and 86 intimidate (i know 83 is enough). I dont basically see what i'm missing, never had complain tankwise, and myddo doesnt really shows any kind of skill.

    I have no issue to tank epic Lord of Blades without a back up on me, made it to quoris several times, and only fail is due to kiting part with pillars.

    I didnt mean to be aggressive in any way, but as far as i dislike saying i do something well or not, i assume the build i am using, thanks to LolWutRoflstomped, is really really great. I don't know if i play it well or not, i just really like it, it just has an awesome synergy with that quest, and if your tank can tank epic Lord of Blades, this is GREAT, i dont say he is bad or not You made it, you got the LoB on you, that's all you are asked to. If you can hold him longer, that's better. That's my personnal goal, to guarantee almost always a no death tanking, nor a need for a back up.

    I assume you were DR-breaking LoB thanks to some paladin capstone for good damage, and adamantine from artificer scroll ?
    This work indeed, it's just that it won't work for any build that can't afford naturally good damages
    I think i corrected my mistake about that shield. I was wrong about levik's, it's a real great option. However i prefer using my crafted version for the reasons i listed already.

    No big deal, just discussing aren't we ?

    I know that some people may feel frustrated cause we had some real good runs sometimes, that failed for almost nothing, while we had like 3 deaths and 10 pots used overall at the end, for around 30+ minutes in the quest. Maybe are they jealous that you could make it with so much deaths and minutes, but you made it, we didnt period. And congratz forthat I think we will be glad too to put some stuff about it when eventually we will do a nice completion.

    I agree with LolWutRoflstomped on that point, we are still arguing about a completions while every other servers have like 5+ completions of it every day. Sarlona is Sarlona
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    Default To many haters

    Have'nt posted on the forums before because of the haters,But bottom line we completed epic lob with the help of all the gravis friends,Thanks again all.Leader of gravis(Lead by examble)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshan View Post
    They don't really show off with their completions actually but you could ask Poplar or Cabbagepatch both of them told me that.
    I will personnaly only post a completion when we will be under 40 minutes huhu ^^ Still gotta pass the kiting phase. Only one try so far, was smooth as hell till quori spawn

    Who kited quori in your run btw ?
    Just ran nornal LOB with Grinder, Poplar,casstio,chaofan,oooooonaix,justdance,buleic e,shiseidoo, and they all tell me that they have NOT completed a epic LOB as yet.

    (Tell): <Player:IIDString:0x020B0000000F039E:Poplar>Poplar <\Player> tells you, 'nah,i mean we try it.not completed'

    seems like a lot of "I KNOW EVERYTHING" people need to shut their mouths and talk about what they know not what they think they know. Figured I would go right to the source and got the "correct" "true" answer

    and im not aiming this at you Arshan, your comment was what led me to get the truth and talk to them, but it seems a LOT of people in game and on forums seem to talk about Grinder completing ELOB, which is total BS, and a straight up assumption/lie...pick your poison
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    Finnally some truth(unlike some),thanks Healsavant and all gravis friends.POST IT TO PROVE IT!
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    I'm very often wrong, so i'm glad when people correct me I thought i had understood from GRINDER's mouth that they had completed epic LoB, it seems that they didnt.

    I could by the way use some great advices on kiting part, still failing there, whatever the beginning of the run is. However we start to have some clue still =)
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    Look's like that put a End to it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chain View Post
    Look's like that put a End to it .
    You don't want drama ? You're not from Sarlona, SPY SPOTTED !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Healsavant View Post
    seriously? ok Englorious Basteurds had 1
    Caffeine had 1

    do I really have to go on???

    4. the party or faction with the majority vote: The Democratic party is the majority.
    direct excerpt from YOUR dictionary link.....Gravis Negotium had the majority of players, not caffeine, not EB, etc....
    Yes it did say: '
    the party or faction with the majority vote: The Democratic party is the majority.'

    Now if you took the time to acutaly read, and comprehend as Sergod said you'd realise that is not a definition more so a example a word cannont be defined with the same word.

    So correct me if im wrong but I dont think the world revolves around you and meanings of words arnt going to change just because you say so, so the definition stays the same.
    '
    the greater part or number; the number larger than half the total'

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