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    Kind of like the opposite of you no friends or honor

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    I've ran with GRINDER before and they are pretty uber, and very nice. It wouldn't surprise me if they ran it first but decided not to brag about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by totabc View Post
    I've been talking to a friend of mine in grinder, Elhaymt (which happens to be the leader) and he says that grinder has completed and in 36minutes iirc. From what he told me when I ask why some of his guildies are saying no is because they are trying to cover it (they dont want pugs begging them to bring them along) which i can completely understand.
    They can fill an epic with all guildies....yet they cant fill a normal LOB? they had to pug 6 spots? that makes a LOT of sense. for that matter if they completed elob in 36 minutes thats great timeing why not just 6man normal all the time? that way NO ONE knows that would make more sense....
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    Default I didn't see anyone mention...

    That Gravis is a small International (mainly American) guild that has been around since release and still is a few people short of losing their "Small Guild Bonus". Gravis and Friends have their own chat channel and maintain contact even outside of raids. Trust and friendship do not require guild membership. Those of Gravis that were not in the raid were cheering them on since either they had to work and leave early or came late. I was not in the raid since I had to work early but I had ran things with Friends of Gravis and helped them get items and gear they needed. Thank you Healsavant for the credit for that.

    Nobody in Gravis claimed this was a guild raid. This was a completion based on hard work and cooperation at a sacrifice by individuals that work together and I don't understand the haters bashing it when they have not done it themselves. I did not see those that have done it here talking bad about someone else taking longer or more deaths. If they were, then I would see it as valid criticism. I definately didn't see anyone making constructive statements to improve the time or number of deaths or volunteering to help Gravins and Friends do better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolWutRoflstomped View Post
    You really don't get how GRINDER works do you? If you're not friends with them or part of their guild they don't give a **** about you or what you think. They're the definition of tight knit. They're also probably the most honorable and nicest people I've met in DDO. I'll be sure to let them know they're also apparently liars now.


    He clearly states the "forums" must have some mistakes, because he asked where I heard they completed epic.
    this is undisputeable, anything other than a photo now is just heresay and assumptions by people who clearly werent there to see it. And when you tell someone like sergod your gonna run an epic the lie starts spinning right there before you even get in the quest, you completed in 30 minutes 6 man with 1 healer....you get my point...Just like our elite MA 1 week after release, he told me and Mahmood he completed both epic already. And im sure Mah remembers the conversation simply for the fact we had so many laughs at his expense....and im sure Mah will tell you he heard the same thing I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulothar View Post
    I definately didn't see anyone making constructive statements to improve the time or number of deaths or volunteering to help Gravins and Friends do better.

    You guys should try feeding the lob a bard sacrifice, worked for us.



    (oh wait, CONSTRUCTIVE comments…)

    I did hear through the grapevine (and we all know how reliable that is)
    that you were killing the dogs during each phase. Probably should
    just let them be seeing as they have a stupid amount of HP and can
    be kited without too much hassle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobril View Post
    You guys should try feeding the lob a bard sacrifice, worked for us.



    (oh wait, CONSTRUCTIVE comments…)

    I did hear through the grapevine (and we all know how reliable that is)
    that you were killing the dogs during each phase. Probably should
    just let them be seeing as they have a stupid amount of HP and can
    be kited without too much hassle.
    once again the grapevine proves to be wrong, we kite...
    However I have taken the bardic sacrifice quite seriously.......and im really liking it....as im not the bard lol
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    Default Not that it matters

    Sergod did say he completed a week after the release but thats all whiskey under the bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 777atheaven View Post
    I've ran with GRINDER before and they are pretty uber, and very nice. It wouldn't surprise me if they ran it first but decided not to brag about it.
    yeah don't brag

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    Quote Originally Posted by LolWutRoflstomped View Post
    You really don't get how GRINDER works do you? If you're not friends with them or part of their guild they don't give a **** about you or what you think. They're the definition of tight knit. They're also probably the most honorable and nicest people I've met in DDO. I'll be sure to let them know they're also apparently liars now.
    Indeed

    Quote Originally Posted by Dexxaan View Post
    ................If I couldn't backup my claim I'd state something of that sort too.


    Screenshot or it never happened.

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    How many grinders do you see on the forums?

    Quote Originally Posted by Healsavant View Post
    They can fill an epic with all guildies....yet they cant fill a normal LOB? they had to pug 6 spots? that makes a LOT of sense. for that matter if they completed elob in 36 minutes thats great timeing why not just 6man normal all the time? that way NO ONE knows that would make more sense....
    Why 6 man when you can 12 man, just because someone can solo/shortman something doesn mean they should/have to all the time.

    BUT whatta I know who could ever argue with the great all knowing rathlin thats been in 2 elob completions he must be uber, maybe i can shine your epeen for you and i could be as lucky for you to take me under your wing and lead me to victory of a normal lob completion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Healsavant View Post
    once again the grapevine proves to be wrong, we kite...
    However I have taken the bardic sacrifice quite seriously.......and im really liking it....as im not the bard lol

    Heh, just goes to show you shouldn't believe hearsay...

    Bonus points if the bard was a halfling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iraiqat316 View Post
    Sergod did say he completed a week after the release but thats all whiskey under the bridge.

    Uncle Mahmood
    I think Sergod said he had trained on epic, he didnt speak about a completion. Well, that's what i remember
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshan View Post
    I think Sergod said he had trained on epic, he didnt speak about a completion. Well, that's what i remember
    He clearly stated he completed epic MA and LOB clearly to overstep our elite completion as though it was not an accomplishment at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobril View Post
    Heh, just goes to show you shouldn't believe hearsay...

    Bonus points if the bard was a halfling.
    now where am I gonna get a stinkim halfling? could the loot gods set the bar any higher? sheesh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by totabc View Post
    Indeed




    BUT whatta I know
    exactly, if you dont know dont open your mouth, what is actual fact, there are 3 factual elob completions, 2 of which I have been a part of, can you say the same?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Healsavant View Post
    exactly, if you dont know dont open your mouth, what is actual fact, there are 3 factual elob completions, 2 of which I have been a part of, can you say the same?
    there are only 3 that you seem to be willing to consider/ acknowledge.

    i've no idea about grinder, but i'm 100% certain there have been completions that aren't posted here.
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    Are ya'll STILL arguing about this

    Why can't people just be happy that a group comprised of a guild and several guild friends completed the most challenging raid in the game? Who gives a darn who completed it first or how many times, who did it the fastest, or whatever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djl View Post
    Are ya'll STILL arguing about this

    Why can't people just be happy that a group comprised of a guild and several guild friends completed the most challenging raid in the game? Who gives a darn who completed it first or how many times, who did it the fastest, or whatever?
    sorry everybody knows the hardest raid is an at level fully pugged out elite tempest spine
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    Here it is. We afked at the entry for 3-5ish minutes (ok more 3 than 5 ^^) and i felt like we were really taking our time on the way to LoB, SP being saved obviously.

    Thanks to all the people that came to me for tricks about the end part. Made Ffaa tanking and it was smooth as hell (only 1 death i think).

    The run was longer than usual, but not too bad overall. Didnt die on LoB that is.

    Note that Dangered should have been there, but he couldn't come due to a mistake of mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healsavant View Post
    exactly, if you dont know dont open your mouth, what is actual fact, there are 3 factual elob completions, 2 of which I have been a part of, can you say the same?
    I know sabotage Completed, and in half the time, and yes I can say the same.



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