Please critique my 36pt pure cleric build

[Tummada]

I pretty much suck at building characters so help is needed...a lot! Here is what i managed to come up with using the planner. I'm not looking to be a battle cleric by any means. What im looking for is great spell penetration, amazing bladebarrier and incredible healing. As for gear...I haven't gotten that far yet.

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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(20 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 240
Spell Points: 1546 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 7
Will: 21

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             12                    15
Dexterity            10                    12
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom               18                    29
Charisma             14                    16

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 9
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 9
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 9
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 9
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               0                     7
Bluff                 2                     3
Concentration         2                    30
Diplomacy             2                     3
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                     5
Heal                  4                    16
Hide                  0                     1
Intimidate            2                     3
Jump                  1                    13
Listen                4                     9
Move Silently         0                     1
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     1
Spot                  4                     9
Swim                  1                     2
Tumble                n/a                   2
Use Magic Device      n/a                   4

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Improved Turning
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 2 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Heal I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I


Level 4 (Cleric)


Level 5 (Cleric)


Level 6 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 7 (Cleric)


Level 8 (Cleric)


Level 9 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I


Level 10 (Cleric)


Level 11 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Improved Heal II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I


Level 12 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Initiate of the Faith
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III


Level 13 (Cleric)


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 16 (Cleric)


Level 17 (Cleric)


Level 18 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration


Level 19 (Cleric)


Level 20 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Intervention
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration IV
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Spell Penetration III
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Light I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Light II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might I

[wax_on_wax_off]

Drop dex to 8 and increase strength 14.
Put max ranks into: Concentration, UMD, Diplomacy. Eat a +2 int tome at 7 and put extra points into balance.

Feats should be something like this:
Maximise (1), Empower (1), Toughness (3), Empower Healing (6), Heighten (9), Spell Penetration (12), Greater Spell Penetration (15), Quicken (18)

You could choose extra turning at level 3 and swap it to toughness at 11 when you get blade barrier and don't need the extra turns so much.

[DeltaBravo]

I would not take Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Initiate of the Faith . And would not take improved turning.I would rather takes Thougness and highten.

Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I.. Swap this with con instead.

would not take UMD or diplomacy as sug. If you get the agro from mobs its becourse you want it. With your BB and other. The UMD is usefull but requires a ton of items. to get high enough to where it really can do you anything good. and even then not much you want to be able to use anyway.. fireshields and teleport . both comes in items.

I would take the +2 int tome at lvl 7 aswell.. +2 skill point that way. And i would take more balance skill.

My 2 cents.

BTW i think its posted the wrong place.

[stoerm]

Drop dex to 8 and increase strength 14.
Put max ranks into: Concentration, UMD, Diplomacy. Eat a +2 int tome at 7 and put extra points into balance.

Feats should be something like this:
Maximise (1), Empower (1), Toughness (3), Empower Healing (6), Heighten (9), Spell Penetration (12), Greater Spell Penetration (15), Quicken (18)

You could choose extra turning at level 3 and swap it to toughness at 11 when you get blade barrier and don't need the extra turns so much.

Concur, except maximise and empower aren't SP efficient enough for low lvl spells IMHO. I'd take toughness and empower healing first. You get Mass Heal at 17 so perhaps get quicken at 15. Spell resistance isn't that great an issue, so I wouldn't prioritise those.

[wax_on_wax_off]

I would not take Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Initiate of the Faith . And would not take improved turning.I would rather takes Thougness and highten.

Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I.. Swap this with con instead.

would not take UMD or diplomacy as sug. If you get the agro from mobs its becourse you want it. With your BB and other. The UMD is usefull but requires a ton of items. to get high enough to where it really can do you anything good. and even then not much you want to be able to use anyway.. fireshields and teleport . both comes in items.

I would take the +2 int tome at lvl 7 aswell.. +2 skill point that way. And i would take more balance skill.

My 2 cents.

BTW i think its posted the wrong place.

It's simple to have a workable UMD score (11 ranks +8 charisma +3 cartouche +3 spyglass +4 GH +2 versatility: skills I = 31) which is enough for fireshield scrolls which are amazing for survivability and relying on multiple clickies (to cover longer fights and fire and cold variation) just isn't practical.

UMD is also great for displacement, invisibility, teleport, greater teleport, greater heroism, fog scrolls, globes of invulnerability (in HoX primarily) and bypassing UMD requirements on items (like enduring conviction, staff of arcane power etc).

Concur, except maximise and empower aren't sp efficient enough for low lvl spells IMHO. I'd take toughness and empower healing first. Perhaps even heighten before empower.

Empower and Maximise aren't for spells but rather for Radiant Servant Burst at level 6 which, when amped up with these feats and a Superior Ardor V clicky, will decimate Delera's and other undead heavy content.

[Tummada]

I appreciate everyones advice how does this look...Im up in the air about diplomacy since I want agro to kite mobs through BB...

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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(20 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 262
Spell Points: 1488 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 6
Will: 19

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             12                    14
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         14                    17
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom               18                    24
Charisma             14                    16

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               1                    12
Bluff                 2                     3
Concentration         6                    34
Diplomacy             6                    17
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                     4
Heal                  4                    11
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate            2                     3
Jump                  1                     8
Listen                4                     7
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     2
Search                1                     2
Spot                  4                     7
Swim                  1                     2
Tumble               n/a                    1
Use Magic Device      4                    14

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Empower Spell
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric


Level 2 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Heal I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I


Level 4 (Cleric)


Level 5 (Cleric)


Level 6 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 7 (Cleric)


Level 8 (Cleric)


Level 9 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I


Level 10 (Cleric)


Level 11 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Improved Heal II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I


Level 12 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III


Level 13 (Cleric)


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration


Level 16 (Cleric)


Level 17 (Cleric)


Level 18 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 19 (Cleric)


Level 20 (Cleric)
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Intervention
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration IV
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Spell Penetration III
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Light I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Light II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might II

[wax_on_wax_off]

Diplomacy was just on account of there being nothing better to spend points on. It's completely optional but in theory it could be useful for those occasions when you don't want aggro (epic quests etc).

Skip it if you like