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    Is it basically the same in reducing threat as is -20%

    or is -20% doing reduction on that 80% that treason brings to

    also how does rogues threat reduction enhancements stack on all that

    couldnt find any info/numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavek View Post
    Is it basically the same in reducing threat as is -20%

    or is -20% doing reduction on that 80% that treason brings to
    i think it's same as WF healers friend when calculating heal amp. first treason, then the rest. i guess it boils to -20% hate more or less.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lavek View Post
    also how does rogues threat reduction enhancements stack on all that

    couldnt find any info/numbers

    Thanks
    not suprised. even the devs don't know prolly by multiplying (like heal amp) so that you can't get to 0% hate.
    Jesus saves. Everyone else rounds to nearest 5%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavek View Post
    Is it basically the same in reducing threat as is -20%

    or is -20% doing reduction on that 80% that treason brings to

    also how does rogues threat reduction enhancements stack on all that

    couldnt find any info/numbers

    Thanks
    Treason brings your total dmg done down to 80% of normal for hate purposes. Then after that is facotred in any other modifiers are applied. As such it is the only multiplicative threat reducer where as all others are additive.

    Example. Treason threat = dmg*.8. then treason threat(a+b+c) where a,b,and c are any additional threat reducers like rog stance venom set tharnes set etc.
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    http://ddowiki.com/page/Treason_%28weapon%29

    This entry in the wiki for the treason includes a transcript from the DDOCAST where MadFloyd explains that subtle backstabbing and treason stack by multiplying.
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