level 100 guild reward!

[Silverwren]

When evidence gets posted (even with guildnames censored), Turbine mods delete it. You can't post evidence here. I've seen hard proof of at least seven guilds exploiting to 100, and maybe 3 that haven't. If you care enough you can find the evidence elsewhere.

I see.

[MsEricka]

As has been stated, when evidence has been posted previously or guilds have been called out, those posts have been removed and the posters penalized.

I've sent you a PM with your wanted "evidence" on at least two guilds.

Edit, it's actually three guilds, but one of them only did it for a day or two.

[Saravis]

I really don't think that those who earn lvl 100 should get nothing just because of some cheaters. Level 100 is supposed to be the pinnacle of Guild level achievement. There should be a reward to reflect that.

I like the OPs idea, but I have to question the difficulty of implementing such an idea and the bugs that could pop up along with it. Perhaps something a little simpler like an awesome new guild airship and/or 50% off all airship amenities (or even free)

[Munkenmo]

+10 light resist small hookpoint
+30 all elemental resist small hookpoint
+2 all stats small hookpoint
Expeditious retreat small hookpoint

[Roderickus]

I'm also curious how could someone cheat their way to 100.

[MsEricka]

It was an exploit that was posted to the forums, and users extrapolated from there. It sat on the forums here for two weeks until someone wised up and removed it.

Discussing the actual exploit on the forums is a no-no. It has since been fixed to prevent it from being used by new characters, but old characters that made it happen can still run the exploit.

Would I like to see guilds rewarded for reaching level 100 legitimately? Yes, as long as guilds that exploited are dissolved and all members banned permanently.

The exploit happened a while ago, and not one guild was punished. A few members were banned but that's all. Everyone in two of the guilds I am speaking of were aware of the exploiting.

The third guild should be penalized as well, they knowingly recruited a member from one of the other guilds that were actively exploiting. They went and used the exploit and members bragged about it publicly in General Chat. Although in this case I think it was only a few people that knew they were exploiting, others that were in guild suspected it but had no first hand knowledge.

Back when renown first came out, I was part of a group that tested renown on Lamannia. The tactics we used there we reported to Turbine and not once were we told it was bad. When renown went live we used the same tactics and got penalized 10 levels. We said sorry, and never did it again (and then it got fixed). There IS precedent for guilds being penalized, as this happened on the FIRST day renown went live. We also weren't the only guild that got penalized.

[Munkenmo]

Back when renown first came out, I was part of a group that tested renown on Lamannia. The tactics we used there we reported to Turbine and not once were we told it was bad. When renown went live we used the same tactics and got penalized 10 levels. We said sorry, and never did it again (and then it got fixed). There IS precedent for guilds being penalized, as this happened on the FIRST day renown went live. We also weren't the only guild that got penalized.

We got punished twice for stuff we did on lamannia that got given the tick.

i miss my trogs and sands turn ins

[Roderickus]

I'm still curious.

[cdr]

There's been at least four separate renown exploits I've seen, three only useful for favor and a fourth egregious exploit that could result in an unlimited amount of renown in addition to lots else.

[krackythehoodedone]

Their are several questions being openly discussed that here on the Forums are whispered, moderated,supressed and dealt with in a shadowy clandestine manner .

Most players are trying to abide by the rules but feel increasingly disolusioned at the apparent apathy Turbine has applying certain standards to the system. Standards that many would argue seem to favour those that would bend the rules with impunity to the detriment of all those who have never used an exploit.

Honestly all those players are screaming for some kind of justice and they feel the game is turning into a laughing stock. The message from Turbine surely cant be ''it pays to cheat''

I would like to see one of the devs host a no holds barred open Forum thread where any question can be asked and an answer given (common courtesy notwithstanding). This at least would give those players who are feeling so let down a chance to let of steam.

I would like to see the Guild situation sorted. The loophole closed and the points that have been gained by nefarious means removed. So no punishment per se, just resolved so the playerbase knows that certain guilds have not blatantly profitted. After all anyone who has cared to research already knows exactly what those guilds are and even the players involved.

I would like to see the other current ''bug'' finally ended with the added bonus that it be legitimised for all for a limited period of time. I see no point with punitive measures because i dont see it as being so detrimental and punishing half the playerbase (ish) doesnt seem practical

[gloopygloop]

OK, since you've accused 75% of all level 100 guilds of cheating, please provide some evidence to back up your accusation. Be specific, give examples, and give a list of all reference material used in gathering your evidence.

Yes, I'm serious.

There's actually good evidence of the cheating on the part of the people who are cheating, but infractions get passed out to anyone who actually does get specific on the forums.

You'd have to go to another forum that Turbine doesn't control if you were going to get specific and provide evidence to back up the accusation.

[gloopygloop]

It was an exploit that was posted to the forums, and users extrapolated from there. It sat on the forums here for two weeks until someone wised up and removed it.

Discussing the actual exploit on the forums is a no-no. It has since been fixed to prevent it from being used by new characters, but old characters that made it happen can still run the exploit.

Would I like to see guilds rewarded for reaching level 100 legitimately? Yes, as long as guilds that exploited are dissolved and all members banned permanently.

The exploit happened a while ago, and not one guild was punished. A few members were banned but that's all. Everyone in two of the guilds I am speaking of were aware of the exploiting.

The third guild should be penalized as well, they knowingly recruited a member from one of the other guilds that were actively exploiting. They went and used the exploit and members bragged about it publicly in General Chat. Although in this case I think it was only a few people that knew they were exploiting, others that were in guild suspected it but had no first hand knowledge.

Back when renown first came out, I was part of a group that tested renown on Lamannia. The tactics we used there we reported to Turbine and not once were we told it was bad. When renown went live we used the same tactics and got penalized 10 levels. We said sorry, and never did it again (and then it got fixed). There IS precedent for guilds being penalized, as this happened on the FIRST day renown went live. We also weren't the only guild that got penalized.

Just so that everyone knows, the guilds that did the massive renown exploiting still have access to a big renown exploit of some sort (I don't know the details) since one of those guilds picked up eleven million renown in one day in late December/early January.

[Silverwren]

Well, I've been educated by my DDO peers once again. Thanks to all who have sent me the private messages to explain this situation to me. I had no idea this exploit was occurring, and Tubine aught to take another serious look into this if they are not already doing so.

I apologize for helping to derail this posting off it's original intent, but I honestly didn't think the problem was quite this bad. Please carry on with your normally scheduled posting.

[karl_k0ch]

That was a joke.

Don't believe him! He's just saying this to make all non-lvl-100 guilds less envoius!

[Flavilandile]

2. I looked at the link you provided. I'm not entirely sure how that proves 3/4 of all guilds cheat. Don't bother to explain it though. It would probably take up four more pages.

Hint : Look at the Stairs. then everything will become evident.

As for the subject of this thread, I think something should be done to make levels over 75 interesting...
Right now there's not much interest going much over LVL 75, there's just a +5% XP Shrine, an altar and two ships...
And absolutely none to go over LVL 93.

[gloopygloop]

Expeditious retreat small hookpoint

I love the idea of an Expeditious Retreat hookpoint. Sexiest low level buff ever.

[flech]

...There's currently no way to get all 5 guild resists and all 6 guild stats on a ship...

That's like so not true. My guild has all resists, all 6 stats, + more stuff on it ( lvl 80 ship, wasn't bought with astral diamonds )

[porq]

There's currently no way to get all 5 guild resists and all 6 guild stats on a ship...

That's like so not true. My guild has all resists, all 6 stats, + more stuff on it ( lvl 80 ship, wasn't bought with astral diamonds )

I think you missed something important. The other relevant part of that quote.

I'd just be happy if it removed guild renown decay once you hit 100. Its a pain still having to take renown constantly to keep from decaying back to 99. Its a struggle to keep ahead of the decay.

What would be even better though is add an extra spot for each guild ship augment when a guild hits 100. There's currently no way to get all 5 guild resists and all 6 guild stats on a ship. You can't hire a full crew of buff givers either, ones always going to have to sit out as there aren't enough spots. It took OR almost a year to the date of guild renown being released and god know how many high level quest ransacks, especially Epic Partycrasher and Shroud 1-4 farms, a week to hit 100. The announcement for hitting 100 is not worth the effort it takes to obtain. It really could use something to go along with it.

[Munkenmo]

I think you missed something important. The other relevant part of that quote.

i think you missed the part where he does have all resists and all stats.

the claim that said you couldn't is incorrect.