90 Unbuffed AC

[Lighti]

Pre U14

Just relaxing on the ship with my 90 Unbuffed AC



If i could be bothered to sit there getting Haste Guard and Cannith Combat Infusion to trigger at same time could get a Screen Shot of 118 with every AC buff in the game. And then also 130 with some enhancements changes on top of that.


Heres a bit of me faffing around with it.



Voila, AC works in epics, you just have to have every AC item in the game to do it :P . Note i could go higher than the AC of 95 used here if i bothered to buff.




Finished set up after 2 years of trying to pull an Envenomed Cloak seal.

[Meat-Head]

That's Hot.


geeer breakdown for dummeees plox?

[giggiddy]

That's Hot.


geeer breakdown for dummeees plox?

Yes please! This is awesome! I'm an AC *****

[LeLoric]

That's Hot.


geeer breakdown for dummeees plox?

From looking at the screenshot it's probably this

10 base
11 dex
17 armor (+7 enhancement slotted red dragon plate)
11 shield (tier 3 +7 slotted alchem tower shield)
9 natural armor (+6 epic seal of the earth +3 3 pc abishai)
5 deflection (+5 protection item)
12 dodge (+3, 2, 1 items and +4 stance and +1 shield ritual and +1 armor ritual)
6 misc (2 stalwart set bonus 4 insight)
9 feat (5 combat expertise, 1 dodge, 3 stalwart enchancements)

[Stermlin]

Looks neat, but can it do windows?

[Lighti]

Correct. Although Tier 2 Alchemical doesn't have a slot.

[LeLoric]

Correct. Although Tier 2 Alchemical doesn't have a slot.

yeah typo sorry fixed it

[elraido]

Well, i wouldn't say AC works in epic content by posting a pic of fighting a Bloodtide Creeper. I have hit 94 (yes buffed) on my Paladin and it still didn't help that much. I just wish I could have a dex mod that high and still have it matter

[jimmy.]

nice

[Lighti]

The Dex Mod is the reason i changed to Fighter. And concerning Epics. The higher it goes the more it helps.

[Shade]

All that work and yet your solo survivability it still worse then my zero ac bbns.
Why? You cant drink SF pots with those stats.

But hey your almost there, get your wisdom up 1 more point and youll be set. good luck

[Havok.cry]

All that work and yet your solo survivability it still worse then my zero ac bbns.
Why? You cant drink SF pots with those stats.

But hey your almost there, get your wisdom up 1 more point and youll be set. good luck

+3 tome pay to win.

Id like a str/dex/con breakdown too please.

[Inferno346]

All that work and yet your solo survivability it still worse then my zero ac bbns.
Why? You cant drink SF pots with those stats.

But hey your almost there, get your wisdom up 1 more point and youll be set. good luck

He has owl's wisdom pots on his hotbar.

[Wraith_Sarevok]

That's pointless in a variety of situations I can name:

- Beholder anti-magic; a lot of people run Hound of Xoriat, it's very popular. eVoN2 and 3 have beholders that are unavoidable.
- Abbot dispels buffs; he's very good at it due to his high caster level.
- Various dispelling casters in quests; mainly desert runs that have drow scorpions such as in eOoB.

Not to mention those potions only last 7 minutes each and cause a moderate drain on cash to maintain a stack of 100. You really want to be able to drink SF potions at all times.

[BurningDownTheHouse]

That's pointless in a variety of situations I can name:

Really?

- Beholder anti-magic; a lot of people run Hound of Xoriat, it's very popular. eVoN2 and 3 have beholders that are unavoidable.

Even, if he lowers himself to running HoX, he won't need SF pots to survive there, not with this ac. Normal Cure Serious pots will do lol. And as for the beholders in eVoN2-3, they are pushovers anyway, always time to heal up after they are dead.

- Abbot dispels buffs; he's very good at it due to his high caster level.

In any sane Abbot run no sane melee will be drinking healing pots. Divine mass heals will be more than enough. Why waste the dps?

EDIT: Oh and I completely forgot, nice AC Lighti.

- Various dispelling casters in quests; mainly desert runs that have drow scorpions such as in eOoB.

I'll grant you this one, but with his AC, not even this will present much of a problem.

But this...

Not to mention those potions only last 7 minutes each and cause a moderate drain on cash to maintain a stack of 100. You really want to be able to drink SF potions at all times.

In one sentence you say that pots that cost less than Cure Serious pots are a drain on cash, while in the next you talk about drinking SF pots all the time. Really?

[Wraith_Sarevok]

Really?


Even, if he lowers himself to running HoX, he won't need SF pots to survive there, not with this ac. Normal Cure Serious pots will do lol. And as for the beholders in eVoN2-3, they are pushovers anyway, always time to heal up after they are dead.


In any sane Abbot run no sane melee will be drinking healing pots. Divine mass heals will be more than enough. Why waste the dps?

EDIT: Oh and I completely forgot, nice AC Lighti.


I'll grant you this one, but with his AC, not even this will present much of a problem.

But this...

In one sentence you say that pots that cost less than Cure Serious pots are a drain on cash, while in the next you talk about drinking SF pots all the time. Really?

Running Hound is "lowering yourself?" Its one of the most popular raids on Khyber. I see it PuGed multiple times almost every day and about half of those runs fail. Tons of people are after the new loot and this has revived the interest in the raid. I am constantly asked to tank that raid on elite on my barbarian with ~30 AC. I've almost always had to drink SF potions because the healer's were either busy, incapacitated, or dead at some point. Xizzy's bees deal some 60-80 damage per tic and her acid breath easily breaks 100 damage even with 30 resist. She can also blind you for a solid minute with pollen. These bypass AC.

One shot from a beholder and all your buffs are toast (unless you're maybe carrying a pale lavender ion stone?). This also means your healer is toast until they can get out of the cone's effect. A roll of 1 on disintegrate could nail you with 500 points of damage. That's a chunk of HP out of any melee, leaving you wide open to a finishing attack. Some beholder beams bypass AC. The black chaos orbs launch effects and mindflayers can stun regardless of armour. There is also lag to consider. Your healers could be noobs. You never know what's going to happen, which is why it's better to be prepared.

No sane melee drinks in Abbot? That's a laugh! I just ran several abbots today and I was chucking potions like mad. When your ice island guy doesn't throw them down fast enough, it's either drink SF pots or die to inferno. I prefer to live. Sometimes your healers are just goofing off and I notice my hp bar dropping below 200, so I drink. I can also solo Ice on my barbarian because I can self heal faster than the water can damage me. You can't do that with your crumby cure serious wounds pots.

I can do other things too, like solo caster-specialized enemies. Because of course AC builds are still subject to getting hosed by Magic Casters if they can't self-heal.

In the REAL GAME, when people are dying, the game is lagging, or your healer just can't get to you, you'll feel so much better knowing that you can self heal beyond their invisible leash. Yes, the penalties from using SF potions are harsh, but here's the thing: It's better than being dead. My overall DPS is legions higher than yours because you're sitting on a soulstone while I'm still slashing my enemy.

For the last thing I wrote, I was trying to say that you don't need to add the cost for a 100 Owl's Wisdom pot stack on top of the cost for your multiple SF pot stacks. It's always better to save cash so you can buy ingredients. SF pots are hardly my main cash drain anyway. Yugoloth and mana pots are the real reason as to why I run out of plat on my characters.

[wax_on_wax_off]

...Snipped lots of irrelevant stuff after the OP posted a screenshot of +6 wisdom slotted in an epic item ...

Maybe try to follow the thread before ranting so much?

[Wraith_Sarevok]

Maybe try to follow the thread before ranting so much?

I don't think so. The fact that burning doesn't understand what I type and chooses to respond with meaningless one-liners is not my concern. My point was that SF pots should be usable at all times because you won't always have a healer to take care of you and it opens up a lot of versatility. Since I got that across, I shouldn't need to continue defending it. If he doesn't get it from me, he'll learn the hard way in-game...

[BurningDownTheHouse]

Running Hound is "lowering yourself?" Its one of the most popular raids on Khyber. I see it PuGed multiple times almost every day and about half of those runs fail. Tons of people are after the new loot and this has revived the interest in the raid. I am constantly asked to tank that raid on elite on my barbarian with ~30 AC. I've almost always had to drink SF potions because the healer's were either busy, incapacitated, or dead at some point. Xizzy's bees deal some 60-80 damage per tic and her acid breath easily breaks 100 damage even with 30 resist. She can also blind you for a solid minute with pollen. These bypass AC.

Have you tried blocking? With 90 AC? Probably not, because if you did, you can heal with cure serious pots.

One shot from a beholder and all your buffs are toast (unless you're maybe carrying a pale lavender ion stone?). This also means your healer is toast until they can get out of the cone's effect. A roll of 1 on disintegrate could nail you with 500 points of damage. That's a chunk of HP out of any melee, leaving you wide open to a finishing attack. Some beholder beams bypass AC. The black chaos orbs launch effects and mindflayers can stun regardless of armour. There is also lag to consider. Your healers could be noobs. You never know what's going to happen, which is why it's better to be prepared.

Yes I happen to be carrying beholder blockers on my melees, doesn't everyone?
And even if you don't, you describe a "rolling a 1 twice in row scenario". 1 in 400 are odds i can live with.

No sane melee drinks in Abbot? That's a laugh! I just ran several abbots today and I was chucking potions like mad. When your ice island guy doesn't throw them down fast enough, it's either drink SF pots or die to inferno. I prefer to live. Sometimes your healers are just goofing off and I notice my hp bar dropping below 200, so I drink. I can also solo Ice on my barbarian because I can self heal faster than the water can damage me. You can't do that with your crumby cure serious wounds pots.

Ouch, sorry for that, I guess you run a lot of pug abbots...
My condolences.

I can do other things too, like solo caster-specialized enemies. Because of course AC builds are still subject to getting hosed by Magic Casters if they can't self-heal.

Hmm, a lot of those beholder blockers I've mentioned work on casters as well...
But even if you don't have them, just use stunning blow and trip. Red named casters? Almost none of them dispel, use SF pots.

In the REAL GAME, when people are dying, the game is lagging, or your healer just can't get to you, you'll feel so much better knowing that you can self heal beyond their invisible leash. Yes, the penalties from using SF potions are harsh, but here's the thing: It's better than being dead. My overall DPS is legions higher than yours because you're sitting on a soulstone while I'm still slashing my enemy.

Cool story bro. I do carry SF pots you know. I'm just saying that having a dispelable stat support buff is not the end of the world.

For the last thing I wrote, I was trying to say that you don't need to add the cost for a 100 Owl's Wisdom pot stack on top of the cost for your multiple SF pot stacks. It's always better to save cash so you can buy ingredients. SF pots are hardly my main cash drain anyway. Yugoloth and mana pots are the real reason as to why I run out of plat on my characters.

If consumables give you a cash flow problem, you are doing something wrong. Sorry.

[Lighti]

There are 2 Yellow Slots to fill still. 1 is going to be wisdom 6, the other is going to be resistance 4. just have to grind some more Tokens.

And yes was using Owls Wisdom Pots in the mean time