PM Raise Dead

[Talias006]

... Pale Master can cast raise undead on a fallen ally. They have to click to accept it. Duration is 1 minute per 2 caster levels. HP should be based on caster level as well (No 800 HP Half-Orc Barbarian Lich's. ). Can only be a form that the pale master himself/herself has. Otherwise, gains all of the undead forms abilities and drawbacks while in this state. Can be raised back to life at any time by a cleric or resurrection shrine while in this state, and at the end of the spells duration player falls back dead ...

Nice! I hadn't thought of that.
Makes sense though, if you can't get them to a Rez shrine within 9 to 10 min (at CL18-20) then you're in a really bad place.
Have the spell not apply item damage for the second death if by lapse of time.

I'm not sure about the HP part though.
I'm partial towards giving the target 60-75% full HP upon acceptance of the dark pact.
It wouldn't be horribly grotesque inflated HP plus Undead traits to boot, but enough to carry through for the time being.
How about the name "Spawn of Darkness"... Maybe?

[DragonTroy]

Some nice ideas here when put together.

Pale Master can cast raise undead on a fallen ally. They have to click to accept it. Duration is 1 minute per 2 caster levels. HP should be based on caster level as well (No 800 HP Half-Orc Barbarian Lich's. ). Can only be a form that the pale master himself/herself has. Otherwise, gains all of the undead forms abilities and drawbacks while in this state. Can be raised back to life at any time by a cleric or resurrection shrine while in this state, and at the end of the spells duration player falls back dead.

Should probably be a 9th level spell like True Resurrection.

Sounds kind of fun and not too overpowered with a duration and limiting HP to caster level.

Very nice idea, +1

I'd like to amend this this just a little though, to solve the hp problem you mentioned.

DISCLAIMER: The information i have here i was told in game by a friend, i have never played my self, and this may be the is wrong ruleset or wrong setting or something else, but here goes...

As I understand it, in pnp, when someone chooses to become a lich, one of the significant changes was that, like undead, their CON dropped to zero. From there, they change their hp die to a 1d12.

If that was how the hp was to work, i think it would be a nice way of balancing out some of the boosts someone might gain from taking on this form

[Talias006]

Very nice idea, +1

I'd like to amend this this just a little though, to solve the hp problem you mentioned.

DISCLAIMER: The information i have here i was told in game by a friend, i have never played my self, and this may be the is wrong ruleset or wrong setting or something else, but here goes...

As I understand it, in pnp, when someone chooses to become a lich, one of the significant changes was that, like undead, their CON dropped to zero. From there, they change their hp die to a 1d12.

If that was how the hp was to work, i think it would be a nice way of balancing out some of the boosts someone might gain from taking on this form

Yes, that sounds about right.
Most Lich's going from Wizard would need one helluva Con bonus to make the jump from d4s to d12s seem miniscule in comparison.

Form of the Lich would give resounding bonuses in HP to the lowly Wizard, but would only turn Barbarian HP down as if they had no Con bonuses.
Nil Con gives neither bonus nor penalty, but 1 Con is a severe penalty.

I would still be okay with this, as at Character level 20, it would mean you had base 240HP not counting Toughness (Feat/Enhancement/Items) nor other ways of improving HP through non-traditional (Con) means.

[Vellrad]

Speaking of cloning, anyone played Icewind Dale? The dark elf wizard Malavon had a few clones too.

OMG! Spoilers everywhere!