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    Default A couple of questions I coudn't find the answers to

    1. Do the Laceration bonuses on Alchemical Weapons affect all the untyped damage spells (like disintegrate and meteor swarm) or do they affect only Blade Barrier and Comet Fall?

    2. Can the past life feat Arcane Prodigy give a mana bar to a non casting class (i.e. can a level 20 Fighter get a blue bar if they have a past life Sorc)?

    Thanks.

    EDIT: Pretty sure about the answer to number 2 at this point. Would still like a definitive answer for number 1 if anyone can help with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningDownTheHouse View Post
    2. Can the past life feat Arcane Prodigy give a mana bar to a non casting class (i.e. can a level 20 Fighter get a blue bar if they have a past life Sorc)?
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    and gain 20 additional spell points. (These spell points are only available if you are able to cast spells.)
    So the only question is, can your lvl20 fighter cast spells?
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    Quote Originally Posted by good_ole_corwin View Post
    So the only question is, can your lvl20 fighter cast spells?
    OK, then I will add this to the equation:
    Does having the Arcane Archer pre constitutes as being able to cast spells?
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    If you dont have a blue bar, you cant cast spells (things you get from enhancements and such are "spell like abilities" at best, not spells). So the sorc/FvS past lives will not give a blue bar where there wasnt one before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by good_ole_corwin View Post
    If you dont have a blue bar, you cant cast spells (things you get from enhancements and such are "spell like abilities" at best, not spells). So the sorc/FvS past lives will not give a blue bar where there wasnt one before.
    OK, I know this is the case with the Mental Toughness feat, but I want to make sure about the past life one.
    Did anyone ever test it? or has the ability to test it?

    EDIT: Oh, and still looking for an answer to the first question.
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    If the past life of Arcane Prodigy is a pre-req for Arcane Archer, it's possible you could be an SP-less AA who could conjure their own arrows but never be able to imbue them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antheal View Post
    If the past life of Arcane Prodigy is a pre-req for Arcane Archer, it's possible you could be an SP-less AA who could conjure their own arrows but never be able to imbue them?
    That's exactly what I was wondering
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    1) i have only just asked a diff question abt laceration and it was if it stacked with potency and the answer i got was No.. The spell i had in mind was Blade barrier.. Would also love to hear confirmation on this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antheal View Post
    If the past life of Arcane Prodigy is a pre-req for Arcane Archer, it's possible you could be an SP-less AA who could conjure their own arrows but never be able to imbue them?
    I believe this is correct. I recall someone posting that they had done it and found out that it is indeed possible to become a SP-less AA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WielderofGigantus View Post
    I believe this is correct. I recall someone posting that they had done it and found out that it is indeed possible to become a SP-less AA.
    Oh, I have no doubt that you can do that using the Arcane Prodigy feat, as it can be used as a prereq for the Arcane Archer pre.

    My question is whether it's possible to build a fully viable level 20 Kensai AA (By fully viable, I mean being able to use Slaying Arrows).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningDownTheHouse View Post
    My question is whether it's possible to build a fully viable level 20 Kensai AA (By fully viable, I mean being able to use Slaying Arrows).
    Imbues have an sp cost, so you can't get slaying arrows without an sp bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contrex View Post
    Imbues have an sp cost, so you can't get slaying arrows without an sp bar.
    Thank you, I know that.
    I mean if there is an option to get that SP bar without being a spell caster.
    All I'm asking really, is if that Sorc past life feat cen get me that sp bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningDownTheHouse View Post
    Oh, I have no doubt that you can do that using the Arcane Prodigy feat, as it can be used as a prereq for the Arcane Archer pre.

    My question is whether it's possible to build a fully viable level 20 Kensai AA (By fully viable, I mean being able to use Slaying Arrows).

    No you need SP:

    Imbues arrows with the Slaying ability, which will deal 500 damage to a living target on what would be a vorpal attack. This ability costs 50 spell points to activate, and triggers a lengthy cooldown of the Finger of Death spell. Only one Arcane Archer Imbue ability may be active at any time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningDownTheHouse View Post
    Thank you, I know that.
    I mean if there is an option to get that SP bar without being a spell caster.
    All I'm asking really, is if that Sorc past life feat cen get me that sp bar.
    Nope.

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    Laceration says in it's description that it affects slashing spells. I'm pretty sure the only slashing spell is bladebarrier
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    If you were aiming at being an AA without being a ranger you could always just take 2 levels of ranger for the blue bar. You could go anything really for the blue bar but the ranger would give you that extra hit and dmg spell that stacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodspeed View Post
    If you were aiming at being an AA without being a ranger you could always just take 2 levels of ranger for the blue bar. You could go anything really for the blue bar but the ranger would give you that extra hit and dmg spell that stacks.
    Takes 4 levels of ranger to cast spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningDownTheHouse View Post
    Thank you, I know that.
    I mean if there is an option to get that SP bar without being a spell caster.
    All I'm asking really, is if that Sorc past life feat cen get me that sp bar.
    Eladrin said no when it was first introduced. It will work for the Pre-req, so you can be a Fighter 20 with Full AA abilities, but you will never be able to activate an imbue. You can do an 18/1x/1y where x or y is a class that grants spell points at first level-- Artificer, Bard, Cleric, Favored Soul, Sorcerer, or Wizard. But most of those have the Magical Training feat that obviates the need for Mental Toughness or the Sorcerer past life feat. And as Contrex said, the full BAB classes with spells, Ranger and Paladin, require 4 levels to get their blue bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honkuimushi View Post
    Eladrin said no when it was first introduced. It will work for the Pre-req, so you can be a Fighter 20 with Full AA abilities, but you will never be able to activate an imbue. You can do an 18/1x/1y where x or y is a class that grants spell points at first level-- Artificer, Bard, Cleric, Favored Soul, Sorcerer, or Wizard. But most of those have the Magical Training feat that obviates the need for Mental Toughness or the Sorcerer past life feat. And as Contrex said, the full BAB classes with spells, Ranger and Paladin, require 4 levels to get their blue bar.
    OK, thanks a lot for this.

    Any idea about the first question?
    I understand that it affects both Blade Barrier and Comet Fall, will it affect Disintegrate?
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    Bump.
    Would still like a definitive answer for number 1.
    Thanks for all your help.
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