Question About Cannith Challenge Items

[xMyst87]

Has anyone made some tier 3s non-epic and tested them out? I'm curious whether or not you can use a Cannith token to reduce the min lvl by 2, and whether or not adding prefixes/suffixes onto the items increases the min lvl.

If I were to make a t3 lvl16 version Calomel handwraps, for instance, then add holy+bleed onto it, would it end up a lvl 20 item? And if so, could i just add holy but not bleed, then use a Cannith mark, and at least end up with a lvl 18 version?

Or can you use the lvl 12 t3 Ring of the Stalker at lvl 10 with a mark for manslayer? That'd be pretty tight.

Also, will adding stone of change rituals to the t3 versions increase the min lvl like they do on crafted items (which is very stupid - is this wai?).

I've been told that you can use the Cannith marks on runearms to use them 2 lvls lower than normal, but I haven't tested this, and I'm not sure if adding crafting pre/suffixes increases the minlvl of runearms either, but I'd imagine runearms and the Cannith rewards function the same.

[sirgog]

16/t3 Bracers of Wind with Dodge +1 crafted onto them (+2 equivalent) are treated as a min level 19 item. Not tested Masterful Craftsmanship.

[Deathdefy]

Masterful Craftsmanship actually drops the non-weapons t3 versions by 3 levels!

Tried Tier 3 Frozen Tunic level 12 initially - drops to 9, then crafted an invincibility shard on it which raised it to 11. Also tried tier 3 Frozen Tunic level 16 and tier 3 Ring of the Stalker level 16; dropped both to 13. Haven't crafted anything further on either.

Then they increase by +2 per level of any shard you put on them.

Haven't tested on weapons, but I suspect it will just lower their ML by 2.

EDIT: Screenshot of the tunics.
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...nShot00113.jpg