Help with Monk Tank :)

[bigdmag]

Im thinking of trying to roll a Monk that will be the main "tank" of an all WF group. This build looks very nice, but I have a few questions.

Monk the Metaru

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=264340



1. Is this build still relevant?

2. Can he get his HP's high enough to tank without top notch AC?

3. With such a low Wisdom, wont the ToD be fairly ineffective?
I was under the impression that its 10 +monk level + wisdom modifier. Which would put the DC at around
30 or 31 sounds a bit low to me for epic and end game

4. Do you prefer blonds or brunettes?

5. Can this build really be counted on to grab and keep aggro and survive the "big boys", ; "Keep" being the key
word.

6. Is there any other builds for "tank" Monks out there that are good in the " tank" role?

Love the look of it but I'd hate to roll one up and then fail when trying to keep aggro, or worse not be able to survive the onslaught of the boss's aggro. Thank all

[ElbionTcob]

Search "Kelida" and click on V 2.0

Nuff said.

[bigdmag]

Hs to be WF, its a static group that plays every Thursday. We are all TR into an all WF party.

[jeremyt]

hey bigD,
penciling out a few warforged monk tank ideas myself. one is only couple posts away from yours titled stalwart ninja. Possible to drop weap foc + weap spec + monk PL for 66 more HP if DPS isnt so much a concern as maximum avail HPs (at cap if a dedicated raid tank)

[Kinerd]

Earth stance has a 70% threat increase. You would have to try to lose aggro in it. Earth strikes are no longer obviously dominant since auto-crit was removed from the game, but they are still good.

For a Warforged especially, it is tempting to stay in Fire stance for the 25% healing amp increase, but look at it this way: a Healing Amp set of DT gives you 10% * 20% = 32% healing amp, an Incite set gives you either 45% or 51% threat, depending on how threat stacks. Your set-up would have 25% amp 51% threat in Fire or 32% amp 70% threat (and a free Sovereign slot) in Earth... so go with Earth.

ToD will be less effective with low Wisdom, but not outright ineffective, because the save is only for half and there is no Evasion for Fortitude saves. Additionally, with Improved Sunder you will fairly quickly decrease the target's Fortitude save by 15, dramatically increasing your ToD effectiveness, which brings me to my next point: fit in Improved Sunder.

[nolaureltree000]

look up the metaru build: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=264340

it hasnt been updated in awhile, but its still solid and a good base build. primarily dump the elemental weakness strikes and pump healing amp. its a bit gear intensive, but it can certainly tank. i was able to tank VoD and sully tank ToD pre earth stance incite changes, even with geared melees in the group. the only thing holding me back from horoth tanking was the lack of exceptional CON items and a TR to put more build points in CON.

its a really fun build. it is a bit slow starting out, but once you get some gear under your belt it really starts to shine.

[Munkenmo]

Im thinking of trying to roll a Monk that will be the main "tank" of an all WF group. This build looks very nice, but I have a few questions.

Monk the Metaru

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=264340



1. Is this build still relevant?

2. Can he get his HP's high enough to tank without top notch AC?

3. With such a low Wisdom, wont the ToD be fairly ineffective?
I was under the impression that its 10 +monk level + wisdom modifier. Which would put the DC at around
30 or 31 sounds a bit low to me for epic and end game

4. Do you prefer blonds or brunettes?

5. Can this build really be counted on to grab and keep aggro and survive the "big boys", ; "Keep" being the key
word.

6. Is there any other builds for "tank" Monks out there that are good in the " tank" role?

Love the look of it but I'd hate to roll one up and then fail when trying to keep aggro, or worse not be able to survive the onslaught of the boss's aggro. Thank all

1. with some modifications yes.

2. yes easily, with earthstance now giving extra DR it's a better tank than it used to be.

3. this is where i'd make a modification, if you read the thread alot of people state he should drop str to 16 and boost wisdom by 6 points, I'm one of the advocates of doing that.

4. option c redheads.

5. in earth stance you'd only lose agro to a frenzying barb wearing full incite gear. (ie a full ******)

6. you could look at the Emerald 2.0 and make a few modifications to make up for w/f instead of helf, It is a nice mostly monk ac tank.

[Shattered.likeness]

Search "Kelida" and click on V 2.0

Nuff said.

Or, to elaborate:

Make a Warforged Variant of this build, but use the Dragon touched Docent instead with +5 Resistance | +5 Protection | Earthen Guard. When Tanking, use an Epic Staff of Nat Gann (Gets you the +4 Dodge Bonus to AC like the Icy Raiments) when Tanking.

You will just need to change around the enhancements a little bit.

[unbongwah]

OK, you said you're gonna be in a static all-WF party, so I'm presuming there will always be an arcane around to keep you Repaired and thus you don't need any healing amp.

That said, here's my take on a WF dark monk hate-tank:

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Warforged Male
(20 Monk) 
Hit Points: 342
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 16
Will: 14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    23
Dexterity            16                    18
Constitution         16                    20
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom               12                    14
Charisma              6                     8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Monk)


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 7 (Monk)


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Monk)


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Monk Serenity
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: Fists of Iron
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Storms
Enhancement: Master of Thunder
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Mountains
Enhancement: Master of Stone
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Warforged Brute Fighting I
Enhancement: Warforged Brute Fighting II
Enhancement: Warforged Brute Fighting III
Enhancement: Warforged Brute Fighting IV
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III
Enhancement: Warforged Tactics I
Enhancement: Warforged Tactics II

The idea is to be able to bounce between GM Wind for DPS (10% double-strike) and GM Earth for tanking (hate bonus, +CON). I tried to find a good compromise between DPS, HPs, AC, tactics DCs, and threat bonuses (WF + GM Earth stance). On a TR put the extra pts into CON or WIS.