VoD - hard - Devil SR?

[grodon9999]

anyone Pin down the number on this? I have 29 Spell Pen on a first-life PM and it looked like my spells were bouncing off more than landing.

[Blackmoors]

I cant tell you the precise number but the scaling of SR is silly high on VoD, on elite seems like your doing epic VoN 3! Ive made a thread about this awhile back since the mobs shouldn't have this high SR (as I said, comparable eVoN3 drows) but got no reply from the Devs...

[tinyelvis]

You play a melee and get in a quest and boom, this guy is killing everything before you can even unsheath your SOS blade.

"Holy cow, what class is that freaky eyed dude in the dracula cloak, I want to play one of those."

Within a week your leveling a Pale Master and blowing everything up. Then epic questing time comes. Its the moment you have been waiting for, you can now lead the kill count again end game.

But wait a second. This isn't right. In the important fights instead of death and instant destruction all you end up with is shiny blue shields in front of your foes. Ah spell penetration. The great buzz kill for wizards.

Get in line. The servers are filled with the hollow shells of wizards only capable of dealing with the easy trash. When you finally get bored running house "P" epics, start your first of many TR's as a wizard and grinding for that 40+ spell penetration.

[grodon9999]

You play a melee and get in a quest and boom, this guy is killing everything before you can even unsheath your SOS blade.

"Holy cow, what class is that freaky eyed dude in the dracula cloak, I want to play one of those."

Within a week your leveling a Pale Master and blowing everything up. Then epic questing time comes. Its the moment you have been waiting for, you can now lead the kill count again end game.

But wait a second. This isn't right. In the important fights instead of death and instant destruction all you end up with is shiny blue shields in front of your foes. Ah spell penetration. The great buzz kill for wizards.

Get in line. The servers are filled with the hollow shells of wizards only capable of dealing with the easy trash. When you finally get bored running house "P" epics, start your first of many TR's as a wizard and grinding for that 40+ spell penetration.

Thank you for not answering the question, I don't expect to be able to penetrate the SR on everything on a first-life human wizard. I was asking if somebody through trial and error had pinned down what the SR value is so i don't have to.

[Carpone]

Get in line. The servers are filled with the hollow shells of wizards only capable of dealing with the easy trash. When you finally get bored running house "P" epics, start your first of many TR's as a wizard and grinding for that 40+ spell penetration.

The spell pen bar for DDO is far below 40. In fact there's very little reason to aim for a spell pen that high, unless you have a fetish for instakilling epic drow. The point of acquiring three wizard and three favored soul past lives is so you don't have to spend feats and action points on spell penetration. Caster level (20) + 3 Wiz PL (6) + 3 FvS PL (3) + Spell Pen IX item (2) + Arcane Augmentation (2) = 33 spell pen. That's more than enough.

[tinyelvis]

The spell pen bar for DDO is far below 40. In fact there's very little reason to aim for a spell pen that high, unless you have a fetish for instakilling epic drow. The point of acquiring three wizard and three favored soul past lives is so you don't have to spend feats and action points on spell penetration. Caster level (20) + 3 Wiz PL (6) + 3 FvS PL (3) + Spell Pen IX item (2) + Arcane Augmentation (2) = 33 spell pen. That's more than enough.

Speak for yourself

[Mrmorphling]

Well, as 30 is usually considered enough can you tell us why you think the treshold is 10 points higher?

With 30 Spell penetration you'll rarely if ever see a blue poof in eDA for example, you might see some in elite VoD but it's not exaclty vital; zero misses in elite amrath.

With 30 you'll only miss epic drows that hover around 45 and, usually, it's deemed not worthy as you can just web+nuke them

[grodon9999]

Well, as 30 is usually considered enough can you tell us why you think the treshold is 10 points higher?

With 30 Spell penetration you'll rarely if ever see a blue poof in eDA for example, you might see some in elite VoD but it's not exaclty vital; zero misses in elite amrath.

With 30 you'll only miss epic drows that hover around 45 and, usually, it's deemed not worthy as you can just web+nuke them

In hard VoD they have at least 35 SR, my 29 spell-pen failed on a 6. I'm sure somebody pinned down the exact number already.

[gavijal]

How to know what my SP is? Whats the formula?

[Carpone]

How to know what my SP is? Whats the formula?

Caster Level + Spell Penetration Item + Spell Penetration Feats + Spell Penetration Enhancements + Spell Penetration from Past Lives.

For a first life 20 wizard, usually it will be around 29:

Caster Level (20) + Spell Penetration feat (2) + Greater Spell Penetration feat (2) + Spell Penetration item such as Epic Shaman's Band (2) + Spell Penetration III enhancements (3) = 29.

Note: Lesser Arcane Augmentation raises a caster's level by 1, and Arcane Augmentation raises a caster's level by 2. So add the appropriate modifier to the caster level if you have an item with [lesser] arcane augmentation.

Each wizard past life provides +2 spell penetration, stacks up to three times.
Each favored soul past life provides +1 spell penetration, stacks up to three times.