Epic von6 fail yet again..

[enochianscholar]

I am from the khyber server.

Here i was all charged up and so happy, finally we had a good balanced group of 1 rouge(450 hp) 1 bard(400 hp) 2 caster(both above 400 hp mark) 2 fvs and rest all fighters and 1 barb and plus there was this 1 wf fighter dude who had 1100 hp plus(btw all the melees where 600 hp plus)... every thing was smooth the healers were not over healing nor were they under healing..i thought that finally after 3 straight fails in the same month that i will finally complete von6 epic...But no.then the spawn of velah spawned and the downfall started like the same way the other parties had wiped in pervious parties...then 1 healer died he got rezzed back but finally it ended with a wipe sadly :'( this was the 4th consecutive failed attempt..and every time i have been in a wipe it was at the trash spawning....can some 1 link a guide or can some 1 tell me what do u have to do in oder not to wipe at this point again..ty all suggesions are welcomed

[CheeseMilk]

Preamble: I have not attempted an EV6 since before u12, not sure what changes were made, or if this is still valid.

One of your (preferably self-healing) casters needs to drop some non-fire AOE (ice-storm is good) and kite the Claws around. That caster should stay at the opposite rock as the rest of the party to be safe from Inferno. If there are Claws on the party while they're hiding from the Inferno, beat on 'em. They really don't have all that many hit points, but they do hit hard, and I think they cleave. I have no data with which to back this up, but I swear Velah's HP goes down faster for a while right after you kill a Claw.

Again, haven't done this raid since U12 came out, so I don't know if this strategy is still valid.

[TheDearLeader]

So what you're saying is that the eggs are hatching and the Fire Elementals are spawning, and their massive fire damage is causing you to wipe?

[enochianscholar]

ty alot for the info i will try it today

[sirgog]

So what you're saying is that the eggs are hatching and the Fire Elementals are spawning, and their massive fire damage is causing you to wipe?

Assuming this, you really, really, REALLY want to have everyone in the raid except that 1100hp Stalwart break off from Velah and attack the eggs as soon as they spawn. (Keep one on Velah otherwise she'll Cometfall the raid).

Personally I prefer to have everyone from Fire base take the west eggs, everyone from Ice base take the east eggs, and the others help whichever side needs it more.

Edit: If you have a Stalwart, get them to pull out the shield only in the eggs phase. They shouldn't need any healing at all while you smash the eggs - they probably can go 25 sec between heals with 25% physical mitigation.

[TheDearLeader]

Assuming this, you really, really, REALLY want to have everyone in the raid except that 1100hp Stalwart break off from Velah and attack the eggs as soon as they spawn. (Keep one on Velah otherwise she'll Cometfall the raid).

Personally I prefer to have everyone from Fire base take the west eggs, everyone from Ice base take the east eggs, and the others help whichever side needs it more.

Yeah... I mean, I haven't done it that much recently, but we didn't have any spawn. I've just heard of other people complaining that's where they had issues. Heck, our group didn't even have a plan - we just ran around like idiots, and I think someone got assigned to "tank" right as we were getting to the point of eggs.

[sirgog]

Yeah... I mean, I haven't done it that much recently, but we didn't have any spawn. I've just heard of other people complaining that's where they had issues. Heck, our group didn't even have a plan - we just ran around like idiots, and I think someone got assigned to "tank" right as we were getting to the point of eggs.

If your group has low burst DPS (and PUGs often have pretty low raidwide DPS), a plan is more important. Oh and melees should save 3 of their best boosts for the eggs phase.

Better DPS groups can ignore this advice.

[fuzzy1guy]

A single good ice or electric specced caster can wipe out the eggs solo before ANY of them spawn elementals. In quite a few runs i've only seen a couple of elementals. And they can be killed pretty quickly by a caster as well.
Bonus. Attacking the eggs gives MASSIVE spellpoints back.

We usually have the evasion dps and casters go after the eggs just to be quick and sure. Everyone else stays on the dragon.

The main trick is to watch for them and call out as soon as anybody sees them show up.

The only fails i've seen are in prepping/taking down the djinn/pillar. IE. Timeing problems.
Or people falling off. /facepalm

[CheeseMilk]

See? You slack off on your raiding for just a few weeks, and it all changes on ya.

Heh.

Ignore what I said, I have no idea now, but these other folks seem to know what they're talking about.

[Rasczak]

Stop hitting the big red wench and kill eggs. Wipe no more.....

[Moltier]

When the eggs spawn, have a high hp tank/dps (anything) on Velah, and everyone else hunt the eggs. Even healers should be next to an egg for extra mana. Mass heals on the tank, so if anyone need some healing, thats where they get it. Healers can spam heals this time coz its almost impossible to run out of mana. Im sure solo healing eVoN6 is possible again.

[Qezuzu]

Have the entire party kill the eggs, but have one high-HP toon stay on Velah. She'll be too distracted by her "chew toy" to cometfall

[WruntJunior]

Yeah...as long as you kill the eggs quickly, evelah is possibly easier now than it was pre-U11. I've solohealed the entire velah fight a few times now and finished with a nearly full mana bar due to the eggs (while still DoTing). The eggs are such a boon for an organized party...and a disaster for an unorganized party.

[maddmatt70]

The best parties for raids and quests is not always balanced parties. In this case for epic von6 the best raid party is 10 melee/ranged 1 bard 1 divine. We have been running that raid group for von6 and never see the eggs at all and complete in 8ish minutes.

[enochianscholar]

So what you're saying is that the eggs are hatching and the Fire Elementals are spawning, and their massive fire damage is causing you to wipe?

no the spawns distract the healers then they fail to heal properly leading to deaths and finally a wipe...

[djl]

See here's how you properly handle this:

Your highest HP guy stays on Velah so she doesn't cometfall. All the melees run clockwise around the platform zerging every egg they see. None of the eggs should ever hatch. If they do, you made a mistake. Either your team was not strong enough to kill them in time or you weren't coordinated enough to destroy them in a methodical manner. Either way, it's perfectly possible to go the entire fight without seeing a single fire elemental.