So, my monk is at cap, it's halfling dex/wis based monk, and shintao 3D but idk what i should do for tr, via stats and feats im a little iffy too, and enchantments even D: so ive concluded im going half-elf for the rouge dielette <- or h/e you spell it, but can't seem to fit void4 in with ease, any suggestions?
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12-07-2011, 07:57 PM #1Community Member
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My TR monk
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12-07-2011, 11:15 PM #2Community Member
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I thought I remembered hearing once that shinto 3 and void 4 were impossible to get. Don't quote me cause it was a bit ago. Curious though so I'll have a look.
[EDIT] Ok I did it. Tooka few screw ups though. You can have both shinto 3 and void 4. You really ditch a whole lotta stuff in the process that I feel would be better spent on ap, but you can do it.
And ya I just threw in feats for prerequisites so not the best lookn thing. Also stats are pretty much even all around to cover for all the masters. With tomes could prolly switch here and there.
You could do the same on half but might have to give up maybe dex or something else. I used a cross between the rouge dex and elf dex to get 2 while not having to pay 4ap for the 2nd teir in either.Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male (20 Monk) Hit Points: 292 Spell Points: 0 BAB: 15\15\20\25\25 Fortitude: 15 Reflex: 19 Will: 16 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 15 17 Dexterity 15 24 Constitution 15 17 Intelligence 8 10 Wisdom 15 18 Charisma 8 10 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 3 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 3 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 3 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 2 7 Bluff -1 0 Concentration 2 6 Diplomacy -1 0 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle -1 0 Heal 2 4 Hide 2 7 Intimidate -1 0 Jump 2 3 Listen 2 4 Move Silently 2 7 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a Repair -1 0 Search -1 0 Spot 2 4 Swim 2 3 Tumble n/a n/a Use Magic Device n/a n/a Level 1 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Diehard Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue Feat: (Selected) Stunning Fist Level 2 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness Level 3 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting Level 4 (Monk) Level 5 (Monk) Level 6 (Monk) Level 7 (Monk) Level 8 (Monk) Level 9 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Level 10 (Monk) Level 11 (Monk) Level 12 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting Level 13 (Monk) Level 14 (Monk) Level 15 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Level 16 (Monk) Level 17 (Monk) Level 18 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons Level 19 (Monk) Level 20 (Monk) Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II Enhancement: Human Versatility I Enhancement: Human Versatility II Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III Enhancement: Shintao Monk I Enhancement: Shintao Monk II Enhancement: Shintao Monk III Enhancement: Void Strike I Enhancement: Void Strike II Enhancement: Void Strike III Enhancement: Void Strike IV Enhancement: Adept of Wind Enhancement: Grandmaster of Storms Enhancement: Master of Thunder Enhancement: Adept of Rock Enhancement: Master of Stone Enhancement: Adept of Flame Enhancement: Master of Bonfires Enhancement: Adept of Rain Enhancement: Master of the Sea Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Improved Concentration I Enhancement: Half-Elf Rogue Dexterity I Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Like I said you can do it, but honestly a great deal of those points could have gone in very good places instead of the ridiculous prerequisite for void IV.Last edited by goodspeed; 12-07-2011 at 11:47 PM.
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12-08-2011, 05:53 PM #3Community Member
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I was actually hoping to try out dark monk this life D; so i just screwed your whole time over :3 sorry hehe but yea dark monk this time around...
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12-09-2011, 12:20 PM #4Community Member
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Stupid forums ate my post, they didn't even let me have any leftovers!
It said(or mostly said)
Void line is hard to fit in, period.
Gotta fit in all of the stuff for ninja spy, ToD and it's prereqs, all of your stances up to master, and one grandmaster(hopefully you pick two to stay in, though.) and then the void line itself... All while still getting the stuff that's important to your character(Stat increases, healing amp, skill increases, etc.)
If you want me to, I can open up a planner when I get home today and work out balanced enhancements for your toon, or something to base them off of, and let you get most of what you want out of it, maybe all, if you're willing to make sacrifices...
Just need to tell me your main focus, AC, Survivability, DPS, etc.
If your'e staying Dex/Wis, or doing something else for your stats.
And if at all possible, your stats without enhancements added, but gear on, if it's the same gear you plan to use next life, if you can't, that's cool. Enhancements change with gear all the time.
That's the most of what I said... hopefully I can help
Edit: Because I have pride in this area!
Half-Elf = Best choice for Monk race... Why? because, that's why.
Last edited by jojoalva69; 12-09-2011 at 12:22 PM. Reason: I felt like it... how much more reason do I need? :D
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12-09-2011, 03:47 PM #5Community Member
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To reiterate what Oz said, half-elf is the most powerful race for monks by a landslide.
As far as stats, try and get where you'll get earth 4 and air 4 with a +2 tome. They're incredible to have, if you don't know already. Further, it is very hard to get void into a monk, but if you can do it, it is extremely powerful.
As an addendum, if you can stomach it, going for 36 point build will greatly help....balanced monks are far and wide the most powerful.Pestilence: Wruntjunior ~ Dragonborn Fire Sorc (finished completionist project) // Wruntarrow ~ HW Archer // Youngwrunt ~ SWF SDK Bardbarian // Wruntstaff ~ Stick Melee (current tr project)
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12-09-2011, 05:50 PM #6Community Member
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Originally Posted by WruntJunior
Touche... Oh lookie! Oz is in my Forum Name too! But again, it is silent and apparently invisible
But, Yes yes and yes to all three of the things you touched on... Especially about the 36pt build... that's a very important part of having a good well balanced monk.
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12-16-2011, 04:04 PM #7Community Member
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It all comes down to what you want your monk to be able to do the most. I have a 36 pt horc monk that mainly dishes out incredible amounts of dps, has 65-70 ac depending on gear, void 4 and 600 ish hp.
On other hand i only have grandmastery in fire and my healing amp suffers due to having to spend so much AP on void 4.
So what are your priorities? Let me know and i'll try to help the best i can.
Ps to all you helf people, its not the best race, its the easiest. Helf will never be a min/max race, its just a balanced one. It all comes down to what you want, saying its the best, BY FAR even, is just ridicules. And before you start saying things like i dont know what im talking about, consider that i have a 3rd life helf monk also and my horc monk does do more dps even if the helf one is all around more survivable and has more dc.Last edited by alexxxis; 12-16-2011 at 04:09 PM.
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12-17-2011, 06:14 PM #8Community Member
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For monk DPS, half orc gets: Originally Posted by alexxxis
+3 Strength
+3 Power Attack
Half elf gets:
25% Damage Boost
3d6 Sneak Attack
The only place the half orc even stands a chance is against 100 fort. Anything with less and it's no contest.
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12-19-2011, 02:52 PM #9Community Member
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If I remember correctly, No one ever said, or at least I never said Helf is the most powerful because it does more DPS than a Horc, even though it does, unless as stated above you're in a 100% Fort situation... Originally Posted by alexxxis
You don't have to do the absolute most DPS for it to be powerful, even when talking about Melees...
And to be honest.. I wouldn't say it's the easiest either...
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12-17-2011, 11:12 AM #10Community Member
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Don't know where you read that. I've done several shintao III void IV builds. I'm currently running shintao III void IV and got vers IV to fit on also.
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12-28-2011, 08:13 PM #11Community Member
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not really proud of it, but it does fall within your guidelines, but i say its at great cost.
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.12.01 DDO Character Planner Home Page DarkVoid Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male (20 Monk) Hit Points: 282 Spell Points: 0 BAB: 15\15\20\25\25 Fortitude: 15 Reflex: 19 Will: 18 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 15 18 Dexterity 16 24 Constitution 14 16 Intelligence 8 8 Wisdom 16 22 Charisma 8 8 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 3 11 Bluff -1 -1 Concentration 6 40 Diplomacy -1 -1 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle -1 -1 Heal 3 6 Hide 3 11 Intimidate -1 -1 Jump 6 29 Listen 3 6 Move Silently 3 11 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a Repair -1 -1 Search -1 -1 Spot 3 6 Swim 5 25 Tumble 4 11 Use Magic Device n/a n/a Level 1 (Monk) Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk Feat: (Selected) Toughness Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting Level 2 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse Level 3 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Disciple of the Fist Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness Level 4 (Monk) Level 5 (Monk) Level 6 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge Feat: (Selected) Stunning Fist Level 7 (Monk) Level 8 (Monk) Level 9 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting Level 10 (Monk) Level 11 (Monk) Level 12 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Level 13 (Monk) Level 14 (Monk) Level 15 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Level 16 (Monk) Level 17 (Monk) Level 18 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons Level 19 (Monk) Level 20 (Monk) Enhancement: Monk Serenity Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I Enhancement: Human Versatility I Enhancement: Static Charge Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II Enhancement: Touch of Death Enhancement: Porous Soul Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II Enhancement: Void Strike I Enhancement: Void Strike II Enhancement: Void Strike III Enhancement: Void Strike IV Enhancement: Unbalancing Strike Enhancement: Winter's Touch Enhancement: Adept of Wind Enhancement: Grandmaster of Storms Enhancement: Master of Thunder Enhancement: Adept of Rock Enhancement: Master of Stone Enhancement: Adept of Flame Enhancement: Master of Bonfires Enhancement: Adept of Rain Enhancement: Master of the Sea Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Improved Jump I Enhancement: Improved Jump II Enhancement: Improved Tumble I Enhancement: Improved Tumble II Enhancement: Half-Elf Rogue Dexterity I Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
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01-09-2012, 03:13 AM #12Community Member
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Why are you not proud of it? Sure its a little tome expensive but i have plenty banked Originally Posted by Deathlos
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01-09-2012, 05:43 AM #13Community Member
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About half-elf vs. half-orc, horc primarily has an advantage if you splash fighter into your monk build (which yields more damage than pure monk, but at the cost of saves and the very awesome DR you get), since you can increase your number of fighter boosts through horc enhancements. On a pure monk its not that easy to say who has the most benefits, it depends greatly on what you run and what difficulty you run it on.
If you run primarily elite/epic, then the helf damage boosts will run out quite quickly and you're left with the sneak attack to make up for the extra damage horc has, which can be wonky on the high fort bosses we have in game now. On long fights I think they're pretty even.
Both have other benefits, horc you get +2 DC to stunning blow if you use that (which only really applies if you go Str-based), on helf you get extra heal amp which is especially nice for soloing.
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01-22-2012, 10:58 PM #14Community Member
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what i went with
So after a good year and a half of sitting at 20 with my monk i tree after pulling dark and encrusted ring, stats are 14/15/16/8/16/8 i think, with cleric dilly for self healing switch out later, my worry is stats idk why though^^ feats pretty straight forward for ninjas spy, dodge twf touhness itwf gtwf wep fineese IC: bludgeon i think that's all not on cpmuter or planner. Right now so correct me if I'm wrong
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01-23-2012, 03:35 AM #15Community Member
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Look be sensible about this. never mind horc/helf stuff. Just go Dwarf and stun every ruddy thing to the Forgotten Realms and back.Worth it just for the stunned animations. Go on you know you want to.
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01-23-2012, 06:05 PM #16Community Member
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Actually i dont care about stuns anymore </3 rip auto-crits but on the other hand... no just playyin dwarfs are fugly small and i dont care about there balance SR or hp! Originally Posted by Willibold
