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    Default Spell Pen 9 and other stuff . . .

    What items have Spell pen 9 (greater?)? It's it all named or possible with crafted?

    besides the Amrath belt-clickie what esle can give Polar Ray more mojo? With the DoTs we have now should I even give a hoot about this?

    Completely a n00b caster so forgive the questions if they are obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    What items have Spell pen 9 (greater?)? It's it all named or possible with crafted?

    besides the Amrath belt-clickie what esle can give Polar Ray more mojo? With the DoTs we have now should I even give a hoot about this?

    Completely a n00b caster so forgive the questions if they are obvious.
    Unsuppressed Vibrant Purple, Epic Shaman's band and Magewrights spectacles all have SP IX.
    All named items, as far as i know, no crafted items go up that high.

    Other than the Amrath belt clickie, i'd go for the Eardweller, Epic Dragons eye and Mindfury Symbiont.
    Usually the belts are enough, but in very rare cases i might actually run out of charges, so in those cases the Superior Efficacy IX is useful.

    And yes, even with DoTs, Polar Ray can still be very useful as a nuking spell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    What items have Spell pen 9 (greater?)? It's it all named or possible with crafted?

    besides the Amrath belt-clickie what esle can give Polar Ray more mojo? With the DoTs we have now should I even give a hoot about this?

    Completely a n00b caster so forgive the questions if they are obvious.
    http://ddowiki.com/page/Unique_item_...lacial_Assault
    ^ for 50% "potency" (Cold VIII) to polar ray. Archmage belt and Palemaster belt have 3 and 2 (respectively) clickies of 50% VIII (8) potency.

    minor spell pen 9. Eardweller

    Spell pen 9
    Epic Greenblade
    Epic Necklace item (Epic Hruvayah's Medallion)
    Epic Shamans band
    Mage Wrights specs
    Unsup. Vib. Purple Ioun

    Greater Spell pen 9.
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    Polar ray is useful for mana dumping... other than that I prefer to DoT-torc-tank for sustained damage.
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    Thank you, that was what i was looking for.

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    Also, if you have access to a guild airship, the buffer from The Twelve gives you +1 to the DCs of two schools (can't recall which) that doesn't stack with spell focus items and Minor Spell Pen IX (+1 to spell pen on all your spells) that doesn't stack with Spell Pen items.

    In my case, I carry both the Epic Shaman's Band and the Epic Greenblade, but also grab the buff so that I run with +1 to all my spells all the time, and can get +2 if I need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sephiroth1084 View Post
    +1 to the DCs of two schools (can't recall which)
    Evocation + Conjuration I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darknark View Post
    Evocation + Conjuration I believe.
    That's right. The Phiarlan buffer is Enchantment + Illusion, and I don't think any gave Necro.

    That's worthwhile for a lot of characters, depending on gear, as if you're focused on Enchant/Necro you may very well not have Spell Focus items on for those schools, even while casting from them semi-regularly, so the bonus comes through. If you're wearing the Napkin or something similar, it's kind of pointless for anything but the Minor Spell Pen IX, as is my case (Epic Staff of Inner Sight overrides the focus buffs).
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    Epic Shaman's Band seems to be the only "good" option for spell penetration 9 at the moment, and bear in mind you can easily swap to Epic Ring of the Mire.

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    One the eyeball scepters (bell something) can also give you superior glaciation viii for +50% for when you occasionally run out of clickies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aristarchus1000 View Post
    One the eyeball scepters (bell something) can also give you superior glaciation viii for +50% for when you occasionally run out of clickies.
    Bellashyra's Sceptre from Lord of Eyes. There are five different versions IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danlan View Post
    Epic Shaman's Band seems to be the only "good" option for spell penetration 9 at the moment, and bear in mind you can easily swap to Epic Ring of the Mire.
    I wonder why not Mage Wrights specs .
    I cannot think of another item occupying the slot exept for greensteel which can be sloted elsewhere.
    And the Spectacles are easy to obtain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N-0cturn View Post
    I wonder why not Mage Wrights specs .
    I cannot think of another item occupying the slot exept for greensteel which can be sloted elsewhere.
    And the Spectacles are easy to obtain.
    where do you get the specs?


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    Quote Originally Posted by N-0cturn View Post
    I wonder why not Mage Wrights specs .
    I cannot think of another item occupying the slot exept for greensteel which can be sloted elsewhere.
    And the Spectacles are easy to obtain.
    They're a good item but they're the ONLY item worth putting in that slot so it remains the go-to slot for GS Conc-op HP. Until you get this spectacles are a great choice though which might be a while if you get your SP item first and even after you get it you might occasionally find the spell pen IX on the goggles more valuable (in a pure CC situation).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uska View Post
    where do you get the specs?
    In the canith manufactory it drops from Stellite, the first rare you come along. If one switches between 2 toons to check rares there it is very easy to get them since the area has dungeon scaling.

    Quote Originally Posted by wax_on_wax_off View Post
    They're a good item but they're the ONLY item worth putting in that slot so it remains the go-to slot for GS Conc-op HP. Until you get this spectacles are a great choice though which might be a while if you get your SP item first and even after you get it you might occasionally find the spell pen IX on the goggles more valuable (in a pure CC situation).

    Yeah but good gloves and helmets are also rare for arcanes so Greensteel can be sloted there. I just think its still a nice item to slot spell penn.
    At least I use it and dont plan to change it for now. One ring is occupied with epic Elemental Essence Ring anyway.

    Not saying that epic Shamans Band is not a good choice but I disagree that its the only good choice.

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    Magewright's are nice, and I wouldn't currently craft GS as goggles. I'm not impressed with the Epic Spectacles of Spirit Sight, by the way. (I'd prefer to get the +2 and +3's to my DC's elsewhere, such as from The Staff of the Petitioner and the Epic Diabolist.) Unfortunately, I'd have to recraft my currently slotted GS HP/Conc-Opp goggle item. So I'll probably skip it and craft a Greater Spell Penetration IX weapon. You can also use the Greenblade when you need Spell Penetration IX, if you have it. But the current best option appears to me to be an Alchemical stick.

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    If you're wondering about high-end wizard gear layouts, check out Jen's final wizard life thread, it has a nice explanation why he chose what he did, and lists alternatives... thread here
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    According to DDOWiki, the upgraded Shroud of the Abbot gives Arcane Augmentation IX:

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Fountain_of_Necrotic_Might

    Does anyone know if this would give the equivalent of Spell Penetration IX on all spells, or just spells that scale the caster level above 20? And if so, would this also stack with a Spell Pen IX item? (it seems like it should, coming from different sources)

    If this works, it seems to me an upgraded Shroud of the Abbot (Greater Light Resistance sounds very nice) would edge out an Epic Robe of Shadow, especially when paired with an upgraded Staff of the Petitioner (adds Superior Potency VI) and Noxious Embers (for Greater Arcane Lore).

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    When the winter games come back you can put superior glacaition viii on a weapon. I put it on one with major ice lore

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    Quote Originally Posted by eecsman View Post
    According to DDOWiki, the upgraded Shroud of the Abbot gives Arcane Augmentation IX:

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Fountain_of_Necrotic_Might

    Does anyone know if this would give the equivalent of Spell Penetration IX on all spells, or just spells that scale the caster level above 20? And if so, would this also stack with a Spell Pen IX item? (it seems like it should, coming from different sources)

    If this works, it seems to me an upgraded Shroud of the Abbot (Greater Light Resistance sounds very nice) would edge out an Epic Robe of Shadow, especially when paired with an upgraded Staff of the Petitioner (adds Superior Potency VI) and Noxious Embers (for Greater Arcane Lore).
    Spell Penetration is based on caster level, so yes, Arcane Augmentation does modify Spell Penetration.
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