Ev6

[furbyoats]

...is still a fairly simple raid...

here is how to screw it up.

1) Don't understand builds.
-Yes ladies and gentlemen, not understanding builds is the first step in screwing up an epic raid. I would go into detail...but in short, expecting a 16 bard/2 fighter/2 barb to scroll heal someone on a base is probably a really really stupid idea. The umd is most likely for self healing since the 6 second cooldown and no evasion can make it extremely difficult to keep someone up while not dying.

2) Assign people to bases where they cannot fulfill their duties.
-This includes, but is not limited to, sending a caster to third base while having 2 people continue from second to third to finish the base without a divine...only a bard. Common sense would lead most to believe that if a caster cant solo it all the way, then you send everyone in the same fashion as the first 2 bases. Also, when you're on a dps toon and you are taking a bard onto the last base with you...you probably shouldn't make the bard go in first. You see, what happens is the bard will then take the first hit of damage, and when they have to use a heal scroll to not die, it puts their healing capability on a 6 second timer. Also note that scroll healing requires a concentration check vs incoming damage. A non-evasion toon will have to roll incredibly high to succeed. If they fail the first scroll to self heal, then you are waiting 12 seconds for the dps heal.

3) Do not understand strategy
-This is probably the best way to tank this raid...and I'm not talking about holding aggro. This point can be visited in #2 up above somewhat. But there is a major problem that has been introduced recently, eggs. Eggs will make your life very unhappy very quickly. It might seem like a wise idea to try to brute force velah down before the eggs hatch...but it's a bad idea...a really really really stupidly bad idea. It takes a matter of 15 seconds or so to clear the field of eggs. Designate a tank, split the melee...omg that was hard.

I hope you have found this guide to be useful. I wish you the best of luck in wiping your future raids.

[Maxallu]

I think you left some room in there to be a bit more condescending. If you were really attempting to assist players this is a poor effort. People have provided well thought out and helpful guides before, this is just a lackluster attempt to bash on people.


I don't see this as being very helpful, but I am sure that was not your intent.

[furbyoats]

I think you left some room in there to be a bit more condescending. If you were really attempting to assist players this is a poor effort. People have provided well thought out and helpful guides before, this is just a lackluster attempt to bash on people.


I don't see this as being very helpful, but I am sure that was not your intent.

I think it is a well written guide on how to wipe a raid party.

[Maxallu]

I think it is a well written guide on how to wipe a raid party.

fair enough.

[KannyaAryien]

...is still a fairly simple raid...

here is how to screw it up.

1) Don't understand builds.
-Yes ladies and gentlemen, not understanding builds is the first step in screwing up an epic raid. I would go into detail...but in short, expecting a 16 bard/2 fighter/2 barb to scroll heal someone on a base is probably a really really stupid idea. The umd is most likely for self healing since the 6 second cooldown and no evasion can make it extremely difficult to keep someone up while not dying.

2) Assign people to bases where they cannot fulfill their duties.
-This includes, but is not limited to, sending a caster to third base while having 2 people continue from second to third to finish the base without a divine...only a bard. Common sense would lead most to believe that if a caster cant solo it all the way, then you send everyone in the same fashion as the first 2 bases. Also, when you're on a dps toon and you are taking a bard onto the last base with you...you probably shouldn't make the bard go in first. You see, what happens is the bard will then take the first hit of damage, and when they have to use a heal scroll to not die, it puts their healing capability on a 6 second timer. Also note that scroll healing requires a concentration check vs incoming damage. A non-evasion toon will have to roll incredibly high to succeed. If they fail the first scroll to self heal, then you are waiting 12 seconds for the dps heal.

3) Do not understand strategy
-This is probably the best way to tank this raid...and I'm not talking about holding aggro. This point can be visited in #2 up above somewhat. But there is a major problem that has been introduced recently, eggs. Eggs will make your life very unhappy very quickly. It might seem like a wise idea to try to brute force velah down before the eggs hatch...but it's a bad idea...a really really really stupidly bad idea. It takes a matter of 15 seconds or so to clear the field of eggs. Designate a tank, split the melee...omg that was hard.

I hope you have found this guide to be useful. I wish you the best of luck in wiping your future raids.

I am Kanny, and I approve this message.

[furbyoats]

I am Kanny, and I approve this message.

Thanks Kanny...your tosser is still an abomination though.

[baii]

Stop bashing the bard. Mine can do everything you said a bard cant RAWR

and I do 11man EV6 all the time . 11 + 1 piker.

[teh_meh]

I got 99 ways to slay a Velah, but a bard aint one.



PS I hate rap, but the reference seems appropriate

[Osharan_Tregarth]

Stop bashing the bard. Mine can do everything you said a bard cant RAWR

and I do 11man EV6 all the time . 11 + 1 piker.

Your bard?

[Bain-Deathtouch]

well if my bard can do it any bard should be able to.
check out pharuin

DIE Toastee, have a nice holiday

[Mellkor]

Please excuse Furballz comments, he is still learning.

[Osharan_Tregarth]

Please excuse Furballz comments, he is still learning to stop pugging.

Fixed that for you cully....

[furbyoats]

Fixed that for you cully....

Given that 10 members were from the same guild...I would have thought that it had a chance.

Given the guild name...I should have expected nothing less than failure.

[KannyaAryien]

Thanks Kanny...your tosser is still an abomination though.

But you'd still take my abomination into just about any raid over a random squishy pug...and you know it.

[furbyoats]

But you'd still take my abomination into just about any raid over a random squishy pug...and you know it.

Yes I would...and I would berate it the entire time

[Talimannn]

Another way is to stick the single Artificer behind right hand rock and expect them to be able to pull and hold aggro on all the reavers while trying to kill eggs at the same time and self heal while trying to not get mangled by the 4 - 6 reavers and stay behind the rock so as not to get toasted. ermmmm.

Not many high dps barbs could do that so please don't expect a single Artificer to be able to pull all that aggro off the glancing blow from a full pack of barbs who are stood swinging at Velah then scream at them when a reaver starts picking off the casters.

Aggro magnets they are, gods who can stand and solo 4-6 epic reavers while trying to avoid being toasted (so no kiting room) and kill eggs at the same time they are not. remember Arties don't have evasion or super high AC.