Capstone Art: litII repeater v. wand of force missiles

[Djeserit]

I was just wondering if anyone who has artificer could compare the DPS of spamming force missles to the DPS from a repeater.

I'm not sure exactly how the capstone is working. Do metamagic feats or enhancements apply? If you buy level 7 force missile wands from the vendor, assume you have the capstone and the force line 7/1/1 and empower and maximize, how much damage can you deal? Does superior kinetics apply? Or do just wand enhancements apply?

How does that compare to a good repeater?

[TreknaQudane]

I was just wondering if anyone who has artificer could compare the DPS of spamming force missles to the DPS from a repeater.

I'm not sure exactly how the capstone is working. Do metamagic feats or enhancements apply? If you buy level 7 force missile wands from the vendor, assume you have the capstone and the force line 7/1/1 and empower and maximize, how much damage can you deal? Does superior kinetics apply? Or do just wand enhancements apply?

How does that compare to a good repeater?

Only the Wand and Scroll Mastery line will apply.

The repeater winds hands down.

[Jaid314]

Only the Wand and Scroll Mastery line will apply.

The repeater winds hands down.

epic wands would fare a little better though i think? (they get free maximise, which should help quite a bit).

[Book_O_Dragons]

epic wands would fare a little better though i think? (they get free maximise, which should help quite a bit).

that doesn't stack with wand and scroll mastery

[Jaid314]

that doesn't stack with wand and scroll mastery

wow. that seems remarkably pointless then. why do the devs even bother making this gear in the first place?

[Aashrym]

wow. that seems remarkably pointless then. why do the devs even bother making this gear in the first place?

Issue with the technology at the time. Genasi stated that ideally he would like to stack but could not do it. It would be on the someday list. At least it's still a bonus.

[Funny_looking_mole]

To give some numbers, a decent Arti with a good repeater (LitII is a good example), will pull out about 250 DPS from what I am told.

So for a wand to compete with the repeater, it will have to compete with the 250 DPS number, and with the 6 second cooldown to do equal DPS you would need 1 charge to do about 1500 damage, this of course ignores other things you can do while the wand is on cooldown, as well as the inability to use other clickies, and the cost/inventory space.

Wand of force Missile, used by a level 20 arti: Casts http://ddowiki.com/page/Force_Missiles doing on average 21 damage per missile (2d3+8 * 1.75 = 21) and at level 20 will cast 6 missiles, for a total damage of 126, giving 21 DPS if only using that wand.

Epic Brimstone Verge, used by a level 20 arti with 40 int: Casts http://ddowiki.com/page/Delayed_Blast_Fireball as a level 20 doing on average of 200 base damage (20d3 + 60 * 2 = 200) but also is affected by a reflex save for half with a DC of 35 (10 base + 7 spell level + 3 enhancements + 15 int mod), meaning it will be resisted a lot in higher end content. On a single target that doesn't ever resist it will average 33.3 DPS. However it is AoE so if you are able to find 8 targets to consistently hit with with the wand, that won't resist, and are not lined up for IPS than it may be able to out DPS the Repeater.

TL;DR version: the best you could do with getting epic items, and specing for wands, is 1/10th the DPS of a repeater.

[Havok.cry]

I could see using epic cacophonic verge for some CC on an arti, but not for dps.