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    Default Hey. Our Sorcerers, our wizards.

    When you're on Crystal Duty in Shroud:

    The second the Barrier around the Crystal goes down? Disintegrate it. One shot. Killed, done, we move on with the raid.

    You do not need to:

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    • Incendiary Cloud
    • Cone of Cold
    • Say "Someone else has got this, right?"
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    If I was on my Spellsinger, I could make up for your failure and Greater Shout the thing to death. But sadly, he has the same three day timer as any other toon. So when my blue bars are on timer, please don't embarrass yourselves so thoroughly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDearLeader View Post
    When you're on Crystal Duty in Shroud:

    The second the Barrier around the Crystal goes down? Disintegrate it. One shot.
    On normal that is. But more people are attempting hard and elite these days.

    Well before U11, I remember taking down the crystal on elite required a firewall, disintegrate, polar ray, disintegrate.

    I haven't run Shroud on my caster in ages though.
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    Part of it is that many casters don't know how to use the targeting reticle (right click or 't'), and thus can't pre-aim at the crystal. Or, they think it only works for positioning Firewalls.

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    I use Wall of Fire to "mark" the crystal so a soon as the shield goes down it starts taking damage, then I hit it with Disintegrate to kill it.

    The Wall of Fire is just a crutch in case my mind wanders while the mini-bosses are being killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakarne View Post
    On normal that is. But more people are attempting hard and elite these days.

    Well before U11, I remember taking down the crystal on elite required a firewall, disintegrate, polar ray, disintegrate.

    I haven't run Shroud on my caster in ages though.
    This was a Normal Shroud.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarisa View Post
    Part of it is that many casters don't know how to use the targeting reticle (right click or 't'), and thus can't pre-aim at the crystal. Or, they think it only works for positioning Firewalls.
    Mouselook mode - yeah.

    Quote Originally Posted by rdasca View Post
    I use Wall of Fire to "mark" the crystal so a soon as the shield goes down it starts taking damage, then I hit it with Disintegrate to kill it.

    The Wall of Fire is just a crutch in case my mind wanders while the mini-bosses are being killed.
    The point is, there's a giant blue ball around it. When the giant blue ball no longer exists, you hit the Tab Key, and whatever your Disintegrate button is. No other spells or special preparation is necessary. Instead, the caster I'm referring to Ice Storm/Firewall, and just stare at the crystal beyond that.

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    i like to keep a polar ray on standby as well. there's always the chance the crystal will roll a 20 and you'll need to finish it off with something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaid314 View Post
    i like to keep a polar ray on standby as well. there's always the chance the crystal will roll a 20 and you'll need to finish it off with something else.
    Another Disintegrate.

    It's still faster than staring at Ice Storm not doing nearly enough damage nearly fast enough.

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    I guess I should apologies for my actions.

    I blew almost all my sp dotting 3 of the bosses pulling agro, droped an ice storm, a firewall and an acid cloud on the way back to the crystal.

    I was feeling hella pro, thinking to myself 3 bosses traveling at different speeds, they'll die one at a time. Well I was right, they did, the problem ended up being what was left of my sp wasn't enough for a disintegrate.

    I tried to using my throwing weapon and past life sla's to beat it down, but in the end all I could do was stand there in terror and watch helplessly as the orc, the kobald, and the earth elemental made their merry way back to the crystal.

    Sadly this "hella pro" was hella noob and single handedly messed it up for everyone else.

    Sorry TheDearLeader and everyone else, I have learnt from this mistake, I shall return to my ways of hasting / raging in the centre, passing displaces and then take it upon myself to guard the crystal until such a time I can destroy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fTdOmen View Post
    I guess I should apologies for my actions.

    I blew almost all my sp dotting 3 of the bosses pulling agro, droped an ice storm, a firewall and an acid cloud on the way back to the crystal.

    I was feeling hella pro, thinking to myself 3 bosses traveling at different speeds, they'll die one at a time. Well I was right, they did, the problem ended up being what was left of my sp wasn't enough for a disintegrate.

    I tried to using my throwing weapon and past life sla's to beat it down, but in the end all I could do was stand there in terror and watch helplessly as the orc, the kobald, and the earth elemental made their merry way back to the crystal.

    Sadly this "hella pro" was hella noob and single handedly messed it up for everyone else.

    Sorry TheDearLeader and everyone else, I have learnt from this mistake, I shall return to my ways of hasting / raging in the centre, passing displaces and then take it upon myself to guard the crystal until such a time I can destroy it.
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    My main is a wizard and I can tell you, disintegrate is definetly the way to go. I also keep polar ray on standby just incase I roll low on the damage. Icestorm and firewall are just asking the lion to come play again.

    At least thats what I use to do.

    Now I cast stoneskin, all the resists, displacement... anything I can to protect that crystal... after all what did it ever do to the party??? I reconstruct it as neccesary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDearLeader View Post
    Lol Mo. You makes me the smiletimes. I have another LFM up if you want to like, come be hella pro.
    I'd love to, but after my last shameful display I'm heading out to work or to stand in front of a bus, still trying to figure out which is more appealing.

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    Throwing a FW/IS when bosses start going down is good to do extra damage the moment the barrier goes down and to inform you precisely when that happens. Sometime a single disintegrate doesn't do it.

    However if thats the only thing arcanes are doing then yeah, not smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saravis View Post
    Throwing a FW/IS when bosses start going down is good to do extra damage the moment the barrier goes down and to inform you precisely when that happens. Sometime a single disintegrate doesn't do it.

    However if thats the only thing arcanes are doing then yeah, not smart.
    95% of the time, it works all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDearLeader View Post
    95% of the time, it works all the time.

    Superior Potency VI + Maximize + Empower + 1 AP into Force is all it takes for it to fail it's save on all but a 20.
    No, it doesn't, I'm specced with 5 tiers in all force lines + max + emp + heighten + superior potency vii and there are times when it takes more than one hit on normal. It happens.

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    why don't you like the stacking firewall method? i understand about the ice storm it's slow and stupid but stacking the firewalls=instapop it's dead before you could even tab it to cast your disintegrate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saravis View Post
    No, it doesn't, I'm specced with 5 tiers in all force lines + max + emp + heighten + superior potency vii and there are times when it takes more than one hit on normal. It happens.
    Then you've broken something. Or it saved. Or you've broken something.

    In other news, *this* run has Kasquik stuck in a wall. >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saravis View Post
    No, it doesn't, I'm specced with 5 tiers in all force lines + max + emp + heighten + superior potency vii and there are times when it takes more than one hit on normal. It happens.
    TDL said 95% of the time, are these times you speak of the other 5% ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDearLeader View Post
    In other news, *this* run has Kasquik stuck in a wall. >.<

    Thats not a wall thats his new 9th level version of stone skin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDearLeader View Post
    Then you've broken something. Or it saved. Or you've broken something.
    Perhaps it did, what's your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDearLeader View Post
    95% of the time, it works all the time.
    Obvious statement allowing for the crystal rolling a 20, seems rather accurate

    Quote Originally Posted by Saravis View Post
    No, it doesn't, I'm specced with 5 tiers in all force lines + max + emp + heighten + superior potency vii and there are times when it takes more than one hit on normal. It happens.
    Right so the crystal rolled a 20 and it saved

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    Perhaps it did, what's your point?
    Whats your point? You seem to be focused on this 5% situation that was already allowed for.

    p.s. please watch anchorman before you reply.

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