New Challenge items

[LeLoric]

Elemental greataxe of fire

2d12 base dmg
+5 enhancement
Flaming Burst
Brilliance
Metalline
Greater incineration
Magma Surge
Greater fire resistance

Elemental rapier of air

2d6 base
+5 enhancment
shocking burst
screaming
improved roaring
greater sirocco dc 35 reflex
Slicing winds (rare proc to do slashing dmg to target over several seconds)
Greater Lightning resistnace

Elemental Khopesh of Water

2d8 base
+5 enhancement
icy burst
imp paralyzing
crushing wave (lists this twice actually)
Freezing Ice
Greater Cold Resistance

Elemental Long Bow of Earth

+5 enhancement
Acid Burst
Greater Acid arrow (2-8 every two seconds)
Greater Stone Prison
Improved Destruction
Disintegrate
Greater Acid Resistance

All 4 gain a colorless slot and +6 on tier two and a red on tier 3

[Thrudh]

They need the opposite greater resists on those...

Putting greater fire resist on a weapon that has a bunch of fire effects is pointless. You're not going to be using that weapon against fire-based critters, and cold-based critters aren't going to attack you with fire...

It should be:
2d12 base dmg
+5 enhancement
Flaming Burst
Brilliance
Metalline
Greater incineration
Magma Surge
Greater cold resistance

[LeLoric]

Can also trade in excess Epic collectibles for Epic dungeon tokens.

Normal collectibles can be swapped for minor xp/slayer/crafting/reknown boosts or vendor bought potions.

Also collectibles can now be used to purchase a crafting ingredient satchels of various sizes.

[TheDearLeader]

The Screenshots weren't good enough?

Tier 2 - +6 Enhancement Bonus, Colorless Slot
Tier 3 - Red Slot

Yes, the Khopesh says "Crushing Wave" twice.

[LeLoric]

The Screenshots weren't good enough?

Thanks for the screenies but this thread was already up before you posted those dont get too upset man.

[LeLoric]

Quick comparison of the rapier to a radII rapier on 0 fort no resistance bosses

Rad II: 30.050+1.25*x where x=str mod + additional dmg modifiers

New rapier with +7 enhancement minus slicing winds: 26.250+1.25*x

So depending on the dmg winds does its probably going to be slightly ahead of the rad two if fully upgraded and +7 slotted and sonic is rarely resisted and lightning is often better than fire. However there is no save on the blinding for a rad II and it's useful to tr'ing.

[badbob117]

Oh wow. I want those weps! the pack may see a boost in activity now!

Thanks for info guys. lookin forward to this patch. looks like a good one!

[Ayseifn]

Can also trade in excess Epic collectibles for Epic dungeon tokens.

Normal collectibles can be swapped for minor xp/slayer/crafting/reknown boosts or vendor bought potions.

Also collectibles can now be used to purchase a crafting ingredient satchels of various sizes.

How many collectables per pot/epic token?

[LeLoric]

Another comparison

New greataxe versus epic xuum.

Assumptions both upgraded to +7, improved crit, seeker 10

assumed values for rare procs

Incineration: 2% 284 average dmg Greater incineration: 4% 284 average dmg

Magma Surge: 2% 120 average dmg

firega: 48.610+1.15*x

exuum: 45.13+1.5*x

once again x=additional dmg modifiers and 1.5 str mod

exuum will outdps the greataxe once x>10

Greataxe has more base dmg though and this favors both kensai and frenzied beserkers pushing the threshold a little higher but exuum will still fairly quickly bypass it.

Considering the rarity of exuum the fact that the two are even in the same ballpark is pretty bad please devs upgrade the exuum.

[TheDearLeader]

How many collectables per pot/epic token?

300 Collectables = 1 Epic Dungeon Token.
5 Collectables = 1 Epic Dungeon Token Fragment.

[Avidus]

They need the opposite greater resists on those...

Putting greater fire resist on a weapon that has a bunch of fire effects is pointless. You're not going to be using that weapon against fire-based critters, and cold-based critters aren't going to attack you with fire...

It should be:
2d12 base dmg
+5 enhancement
Flaming Burst
Brilliance
Metalline
Greater incineration
Magma Surge
Greater cold resistance

Exactly this ^^

As it stands now the resists could have been left off completely and it wouldn't make a difference.
Swap the resists to the opposite element and you have fairly desirable, if still situational, weapons.

Just my opinion of course...

[Scraap]

Initial impressions:

It's good to see some cc for melee, though putting improved paralizing (on-hit, will) on a khopesh vs the greater stone prison (on vorpal, fort) on the bow seems a bit backwards. I'm thinkin either flip em, so the lower damage end is better suited to control, or tone the paralysis on down to hamstring.

On a purely positive note, it's great to see more use of non-multiplied on-crit effects on high crit-range weapons like the rapier. We need more of that when it comes to expanding weapon utility depth.

Sadly, Improved destruction is still stuck at a 4-stack from testing with a crafted weapon.

Oh, and Epic tokens for epic mats? Very very nice.

[maddmatt70]

The bow is better then alchemical 3 earth really which is disappointing in my opinion.

[TheDearLeader]

The bow is better then alchemical 3 earth really which is disappointing in my opinion.

Hey man, at 1495 points, they've got to do something to try and sell this pack.

[Ziindarax]

Elemental greataxe of fire

2d12 base dmg
+5 enhancement
Flaming Burst
Brilliance
Metalline
Greater incineration
Magma Surge
Greater fire resistance

Elemental rapier of air

2d6 base
+5 enhancment
shocking burst
screaming
improved roaring
greater sirocco dc 35 reflex
Slicing winds (rare proc to do slashing dmg to target over several seconds)
Greater Lightning resistnace

Elemental Khopesh of Water

2d8 base
+5 enhancement
icy burst
imp paralyzing
crushing wave (lists this twice actually)
Freezing Ice
Greater Cold Resistance

Elemental Long Bow of Earth

+5 enhancement
Acid Burst
Greater Acid arrow (2-8 every two seconds)
Greater Stone Prison
Improved Destruction
Disintegrate
Greater Acid Resistance

All 4 gain a colorless slot and +6 on tier two and a red on tier 3

Nice!

How many mats do those items cost to obtain, and how many more do they take to upgrade?

[Ziindarax]

Can also trade in excess Epic collectibles for Epic dungeon tokens.

Normal collectibles can be swapped for minor xp/slayer/crafting/reknown boosts or vendor bought potions.

Also collectibles can now be used to purchase a crafting ingredient satchels of various sizes.

By Normal, you mean the normal challenge mats right? If that's the case, I am gonna stock up on a ton of those things EXP and slayer boosters!

[grodon9999]

Elemental greataxe of fire

2d12 base dmg
+5 enhancement
Flaming Burst
Brilliance
Metalline
Greater incineration
Magma Surge
Greater fire resistance

Elemental rapier of air

2d6 base
+5 enhancment
shocking burst
screaming
improved roaring
greater sirocco dc 35 reflex
Slicing winds (rare proc to do slashing dmg to target over several seconds)
Greater Lightning resistnace

Elemental Khopesh of Water

2d8 base
+5 enhancement
icy burst
imp paralyzing
crushing wave (lists this twice actually)
Freezing Ice
Greater Cold Resistance

Elemental Long Bow of Earth

+5 enhancement
Acid Burst
Greater Acid arrow (2-8 every two seconds)
Greater Stone Prison
Improved Destruction
Disintegrate
Greater Acid Resistance

All 4 gain a colorless slot and +6 on tier two and a red on tier 3

WOW. My guess is nobody was running this stuff so they REALLY upped the ante.

[Bladedge]

Hey man, at 1495 points, they've got to do something to try and sell this pack.

Nope still not convenience to buy this pack. The 5 plus free tokens are are good enough.

They can add other items instead of the usual weapons, armor, accessories.
Where the cosmetic armor, helms, shields, ship amenities, kolbold hirelings.

And once again nothing that whispers, Hay run your cleric got some nice divine gear for you.

[LeLoric]

The bow is better then alchemical 3 earth really which is disappointing in my opinion.

I disagree. Tier 3 alchem has earthgrab, acid burst and the aoe dmg blast on 20's and +2 extra con.

This bow has slightly better base dmg (2d8 vs 1d10) although eladrin has talked of upping base dmg for alchem weapons. It has imp destruction and the dot tick dmg thing that isn't all that great.

Dps is almost exactly the same. Alchem is by far the better bow for trash with the earthgrab and there are better bows than either for boss dps. That said it is a little sad that this is in the ballpark once again just because of the effort to obtain versus a tier 3 alchem. Granted tier 2 alchem is also really close, fact is tier three for alchem weapons are really weak.

[LeLoric]

Sadly, Improved destruction is still stuck at a 4-stack from testing with a crafted weapon.

even fixed it would only be 4 stacks as improved destruction does -2ac/-2 fort per stack versus -1/-1 for reg destruction. That being said on live they currently only both do -1/-1.