2nd life Pale Master for Leveling build

[darkniteyogi]

I want a Wiz past life for a Sorc for the +1 Dc's to all schools active feat.

I'm thinking, Pure Wizard human Pale master, but i have some Q's..

Stats: 18con 18Int? Or 14/15 Str, 16Con, 18 Int for Melee ability (I plan to solo alot) Are PM Dps Sla's enough?

Skills: Do i need UMD? I have self healing.. don't get negative levels.. Have Ddoor.. What Cleric scrolls do i need? Can i not get UMD and be self-sufficient enough?

Multiclass: I was thinking 18wiz/2rogue.. But if i plan on banking the last 2 levels anyway, I'd never get to get Lich form or even Wail of the Banshee (w/c is lvl 17).. so probably Pure is better?

Any other tips?

As for feats, I'll probably just get the usual.. I've read about Shield proficiency.. But doesn't shield DR not really reach that high? What's the max, about 7 or 8? And it doesn't stack with stoneskin right?

Thanks!

[wax_on_wax_off]

Warforged pure Archmage is easier to level with as there are plenty of sources of light damage that can slow you down if you're just trying to get through a life as fast as possible.

Toughness, Insightful Reflexes for survivability
Mental Toughness, Spell Focus: Necromancy/Conjuration/Enchantment, Greater Spell focus: Necromancy.
Maximise, Heighten, Quicken, Spell Penetration, Greater Spell Penetration.

This gives you maximum DC on instant death spells, 3 SP Webs, 1 SP hypno's, 3 SP dances. Definitely the easy option as far as leveling goes.

Careful about playing palemaster, you might realise how awesome it is and not go back to sorcerer. Having the capability to tank end game epic bosses is just too good for words. SP hungry build though.

[darkniteyogi]

thanks for the reply and the tips,

i forgot to mention that i dont own WF and dont like the way he looks. Unfortunately.. i dont see myself playing one any time soon..

That's why I chose PM, and i also am curious about the PM. The 3SP Webs do sound awesome

[Mrmorphling]

Stay pure if you jsut intend to lvl up and TR; having your spells earleir makes a deecnt difference and you won't miss your rogue levels much (just the tomb optional and monasterly while done elite for streak imho).

I would start with 17CON if you have a +1except somehwere or 16 if you don't; in any case i won't agonize over it too much as journey from 1 to 20 is safe enough not to miss a bracket.

UMD is usefull for Raise dead and heal mostly and mostly on others not for yourself so if you plan to zerg soloing to 20 and TR not that vital.

You can safely assume to abandon melee past lvl 4 (maxxed empowered fireball) and surely after lvl6 (all hail FW).
For general questing necro SLA are an ok complement to persistent aoe dmg first and insta kill later.

My preferred feat order for a 1xTR is:
LVL 1h: Tough
LVL 1m: Max
LVL 1: Empower

LVL 3: PL:Wiz if you don't have as i dunno what your first life was you can scroll other feats and insert a greater spell penetration somewhere else.

LVL 5m: SF: Necro

LVL 6: Extend

LVL 9: I.R.

LVL 10m: SF: Ench

LVL 12: GSF: Necro

LVL 15m: Heighten
LVL 15: Spell pen

LVL 18: GSF: ench

LVL 20m: Quicken

[darkniteyogi]

thanks mrmorphling,

My first life was Sorc,
im about ready to TR now..

asked around a bit and others also informed me that putting into Str wouldn't be needed.
Now im reading about the Shield thread.. Looks interesting but a bit too complicated for a Noob wizard!

[Desdemonte]

You are about to undertake what I just finished doing yesterday.

I went with 16 CON and 14 STR. I was able to melee very effectively up until level 9/10, depending on what I was doing. In Lich form at level 18 my HP was 430ish with a Lg slot HP item on, so the 16 Con didn't hurt a bit, except for repeated Searing Lights to the face. But 18 CON aint gonna help you there anyway.

My feats were close to what MrMorph suggests but I took Extend a lot earlier. Possibly level 1. Instead on Mental Toughness, take the Sorc past life.

I liked it well enough, but be careful when doing neg bursts to self heal. I never got used to how slowly Wizzies cast compared to Sorcs and how easily they can be interrupted- will cause death more than once. May want to take Quicken earlier if you can slot it somehow.

I never bothered with the Shield stuff, but this is a temporary life so I didn't look into it. Have 2 more Wiz to do then back to Sorc a couple times for final build.

[goodspeed]

I want a Wiz past life for a Sorc for the +1 Dc's to all schools active feat.

I'm thinking, Pure Wizard human Pale master, but i have some Q's..

Stats: 18con 18Int? Or 14/15 Str, 16Con, 18 Int for Melee ability (I plan to solo alot) Are PM Dps Sla's enough?

Skills: Do i need UMD? I have self healing.. don't get negative levels.. Have Ddoor.. What Cleric scrolls do i need? Can i not get UMD and be self-sufficient enough?

Multiclass: I was thinking 18wiz/2rogue.. But if i plan on banking the last 2 levels anyway, I'd never get to get Lich form or even Wail of the Banshee (w/c is lvl 17).. so probably Pure is better?

Any other tips?

As for feats, I'll probably just get the usual.. I've read about Shield proficiency.. But doesn't shield DR not really reach that high? What's the max, about 7 or 8? And it doesn't stack with stoneskin right?

Thanks!

You gotta stop that mindset right now. That whole sla's and magic missle thing. All that it ends as, is some party going...the hell are you doing? To the wiz.

A pale master is a survivalist and a specialized in death (insta kills) You can cc but arch's do it easier and better. I can assure you you won't hit anywhere near what that sorc did on a pale. And archmages were good for for low cost dmg spells before the sla's were all put on ridiculous cool downs.

A pales best bet leveling is the old fashioned way. Hit that undead form, hit that aura with a blur or displace with a stoneskin and kite that **** through a firewall you've maxed out via clickys and meta's.

Jack that int as high as it'll go. Follow suit in con, then toss the remainder wherever. Doubt you'll be umding anything so I guess str or dex. Dex is linked to balance if I remember right.

Don't be afraid to change up enhancements every gap in level to accommodate whatever spell setup ya need. Unlike sorcerers ya don't need a dragon blood to revamp all ur spells for a different savant setup.