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    Been getting a lot of questions about my main character's build "Iplaye" so I figured instead of retyping everything every time to just post it.
    First to start, the base for this build was given to me by Sergod. I have just changed it a little and made it my own.
    Please keep in mind this is meant for a 36 point build with Wizard and Bard past lives.

    Goals
    -Epic crowd control capability
    With this build I've solo CCed: eDA, eDeeps, eTTT, etc. *Note* Without using mana pots.
    -Decent Dps
    Dps wise your not going to be top dps but getting as much as you can helps your usefulness.
    -Epic healing capability
    I've also solo healed Shroud, eDA, eTTT, etc. But keep in mind you are probably not going to do this very often and I wouldn't recommend it unless you know your group well and they have the proper self sufficiency/healing amp. *Note* Again without using mana pots.

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.11.02
    DDO Character Planner Home Page
    
    Iplaye The Doom Song
    Level 20 True Neutral Human Female
    (20 Bard)
    Hit Points: 272
    Spell Points: 1095
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 10
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 12
    
                     Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
    Strength             16                 18                   18
    Dexterity             8                 10                   10
    Constitution         16                 18                   19
    Intelligence          8                 10                   10
    Wisdom                8                 10                   10
    Charisma             18                 25                   31
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                     Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
    Balance               3                 23                   23
    Bluff                 4                 10                   11
    Concentration         7                 27                   33
    Diplomacy             8                 33                   34
    Disable Device       n/a                n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                8                 33                   34
    Heal                 -1                  0                    0
    Hide                 -1                  0                    0
    Intimidate            4                 16.5                 17.5
    Jump                  3                  4                    4
    Listen               -1                  0                    0
    Move Silently        -1                  0                    0
    Open Lock            n/a                n/a                   n/a
    Perform               8                 33                   34
    Repair               -1                  0                    0
    Search               -1                  0                    0
    Spot                 -1                  0                    0
    Swim                  3                  4                    4
    Tumble               n/a                n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      8                 33                   38
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Initiate
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Bardic Dilettante
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song IV
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger I
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger II
    Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
    Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music IV
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma III
    Gear Setup *Note* I do not have all of this yet but is the setup
    Helm: Epic Helm of Frost(Blindness Immunity slotted)
    Necklace: Torin's Choker/Epic Shimmering Pendant(Wizardry VI slotted)
    Trinket: Litany
    Cloak: Epic Envenomed Cloak(+2 Good Luck slotted)
    Belt: Colethenis's Belt
    Gloves: Epic Charged Gauntlets(Greater False Life slotted)/Titan's Grips(For the clickie)
    Boots: Epic Boots of Corrosion(Toughness/ExCha +1 slotted)
    Bracers: Epic Scorched Bracers(Heavy Fortification slotted)
    Armor: Epic Red Dragon scale Robe(ExCon +1/+7 enhancement slotted)
    Rings: Ring of The Ravanger(ExStr +2 slotted)/Warchanter's Band(ExCha +1 slotted)
    Goggles: Greensteel HP Concordant Opposition Goggles.
    Weapons: Epic Sword of Shadows/Staff of The petitioner/Epic Eyld's Edge

    Breakdowns
    Str: 18Base, +6Item, +3Absihi, +3ExStr, +2Ship Buff, +2Rage, +2Yuogo = 36 Sustained Str.

    Con/Hp: 19 Con +7 Item +3 Absishi +1 ExCon +2 Rage +2 Ship buff = 34 Sustained Con
    34 - 10 = 12 Con Mod * 20 = 240

    120Base Hp
    240Con
    +20 Slotted Toughness
    +22 Toughness Feat
    +30 GFL
    +30 Toughness Enhancements
    +45 GS
    +20 Heroic
    +10 AA Favor
    Total of 537 Sustained Hp

    Cha/Dc: 31Base, +7Item, +3ExCha, +1Litany, +2Ship Buff, +2 Yuogo = 46
    46 - 10 = 36/2 = 18 Cha Mod

    +10 Base
    +6 Level
    +18 Mod
    +1 Spell song
    +1 Wizard Past life
    +1 Bard Past life (Enchantment Spells only)
    +2 GSF Item (Enchantment Spells Only)
    +2 Capstone

    41 Dc(Enchantment Spells)

    That's about it, feel free to leave feedback, or correct me if I made a mistake.

    Screenie or it didn't happen.
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    Last edited by totabc; 11-19-2011 at 02:32 PM.
    Iplaye (20 - Bard) Alinosa (20 - Barb)

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    Quote Originally Posted by totabc View Post
    Been getting a lot of questions about my main character's build "Iplaye" so I figured instead of retyping everything every time to just post it.
    First to start, the base for this build was given to me by Sergod. I have just changed it a little and made it my own.
    Please keep in mind this is meant for a 36 point build with Wizard and Bard past lives.

    Goals
    -Epic crowd control capability
    With this build I've solo CCed: eDA, eDeeps, eTTT, etc. *Note* Without using mana pots.
    -Decent Dps
    Dps wise your not going to be top dps but getting as much as you can helps your usefulness.
    -Epic healing capability
    I've also solo healed Shroud, eDA, eTTT, etc. But keep in mind you are probably not going to do this very often and I wouldn't recommend it unless you know your group well and they have the proper self sufficiency/healing amp. *Note* Again without using mana pots.

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.11.02
    DDO Character Planner Home Page
    
    Iplaye The Doom Song
    Level 20 True Neutral Human Female
    (20 Bard)
    Hit Points: 272
    Spell Points: 1095
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 10
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 12
    
                     Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
    Strength             16                 18                   18
    Dexterity             8                 10                   10
    Constitution         16                 18                   19
    Intelligence          8                 10                   10
    Wisdom                8                 10                   10
    Charisma             18                 25                   31
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                     Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
    Balance               3                 23                   23
    Bluff                 4                 10                   11
    Concentration         7                 27                   33
    Diplomacy             8                 33                   34
    Disable Device       n/a                n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                8                 33                   34
    Heal                 -1                  0                    0
    Hide                 -1                  0                    0
    Intimidate            4                 16.5                 17.5
    Jump                  3                  4                    4
    Listen               -1                  0                    0
    Move Silently        -1                  0                    0
    Open Lock            n/a                n/a                   n/a
    Perform               8                 33                   34
    Repair               -1                  0                    0
    Search               -1                  0                    0
    Spot                 -1                  0                    0
    Swim                  3                  4                    4
    Tumble               n/a                n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      8                 33                   38
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Initiate
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Bardic Dilettante
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song IV
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger I
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger II
    Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
    Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
    Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music IV
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma III
    Gear Setup *Note* I do not have all of this yet but is the setup
    Helm: Epic Helm of Frost(Blindness Immunity slotted)
    Necklace: Torin's Choker/Epic Shimmering Pendant(Wizardry VI slotted)
    Trinket: Litany
    Cloak: Epic Envenomed Cloak(+2 Good Luck slotted)
    Belt: Colethenis's Belt
    Gloves: Epic Charged Gauntlets(Greater False Life slotted)/Titan's Grips(For the clickie)
    Boots: Epic Boots of Corrosion(Toughness/ExCha +1 slotted)
    Bracers: Epic Scorched Bracers(Heavy Fortification slotted)
    Armor: Epic Red Dragon scale Robe(ExCon +1/+7 enhancement slotted)
    Rings: Ring of The Ravanger(ExStr +2 slotted)/Warchanter's Band(ExCha +1 slotted)
    Goggles: Greensteel HP Concordant Opposition Goggles.
    Weapons: Epic Sword of Shadows/Staff of The petitioner/Epic Eyld's Edge

    Breakdowns
    Str: 18Base, +6Item, +3Absihi, +3ExStr, +2Ship Buff, +2Rage, +2Yuogo = 36 Sustained Str.

    Con/Hp: 19 Con +7 Item +3 Absishi +1 ExCon +2 Rage +2 Ship buff = 34 Sustained Con
    34 - 10 = 12 Con Mod * 20 = 240

    120Base Hp
    240Con
    +20 Slotted Toughness
    +22 Toughness Feat
    +30 GFL
    +30 Toughness Enhancements
    +45 GS
    +20 Heroic
    +10 AA Favor
    Total of 537 Sustained Hp

    Cha/Dc: 31Base, +7Item, +3ExCha, +1Litany, +2Ship Buff, +2 Yuogo = 46
    46 - 10 = 36/2 = 18 Cha Mod

    +20 Level
    +18 Mod
    +1 Spell song
    +1 Wizard Past life
    +1 Bard Past life (Enchantment Spells only)
    +2 GSF (Enchantment Spells Only)

    42 Dc(Enchantment Spells) 40 Dc for everything else.

    That's about it, feel free to leave feedback, or correct me if I made a mistake.

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    I've such a hard on for your build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elricken View Post
    I've such a hard on for your build.

    Tring nairs nao!
    dont you think you should finish your other 3 trs first?
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    I like the CC and healing, I'm just worried about buffs without inspired damage 3 ans at least inspired attack 2. It seems to me like song of courage is the core of the bard and a raid with a pure healer and a bard with almost maxed courage that drops a few cure medium mass is gonna help the raid so much more. After all, inspire courage with maxed damage and uped attack totally changes a raid.

    That being said, being able to be the CC and the Healer must be really nice in epic dungeons so i kind of see this as a great epic dungeon build, but not an optimal raid build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qc_sebyos View Post
    I like the CC and healing, I'm just worried about buffs without inspired damage 3 ans at least inspired attack 2. It seems to me like song of courage is the core of the bard and a raid with a pure healer and a bard with almost maxed courage that drops a few cure medium mass is gonna help the raid so much more. After all, inspire courage with maxed damage and uped attack totally changes a raid.

    That being said, being able to be the CC and the Healer must be really nice in epic dungeons so i kind of see this as a great epic dungeon build, but not an optimal raid build.
    very true, but dps is dps
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    I love having iplaye in my groups

    does dips and does cc in every content we run
    jack of all trades yo!
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    I would swap the +2 Good luck on cloak to the Boots, and the Toughness to cloak.
    ToD etc.
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    Suggestions:
    Drop:
    Improved Recovery I/II (6)
    Energy of Music IV (4)

    Take:
    Inspired Attack I (2)(if you're in melee then you won't be hitting on a 2)
    Inspired Damage II (2)
    Song Magic IV (4)
    Lyric of Incredible Song I (1)

    Try to fit in:
    Inspired Attack III (10) (this is the single biggest DPS increase in many groups in challenging content)
    Inspired Damage III (3) (this is good when you're hitting anyway)
    Lyric of Incredible Song II (2) (4/2/2 is a sweet spot for investments and it will help your healing)

    Gear:
    Swap to Epic Bracers/Gloves of the Claw (same HP but 30% heal amp to make up for no improved recovery).

    Spell penetration looks really low.
    Last edited by wax_on_wax_off; 04-28-2012 at 08:17 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wax_on_wax_off View Post
    Suggestions:
    Drop:
    Improved Recovery I/II (6)
    Energy of Music III/IV (7)
    Improved Concentration II (2)

    Take:
    Inspired Attack II (6)(if you're in melee then you won't be hitting on a 2)
    Inspired Damage II (2)
    Song Magic IV (4)
    Lyric of Incredible Song II (3)

    Gear:
    Swap to Epic Bracers/Gloves of the Claw (same HP but 30% heal amp to make up for no improved recovery).

    Spell penetration looks really low.
    Concentration II and Energy of the Music III are PrE req's for spellsinger. Freeing up 10 AP just on those extra song enhancements when they are not getting MotD or MotM for him might be an idea to fit in more IC enhancements.

    EDIT; second quick glance and the build is a bit low on spell penetration.
    Last edited by Aashrym; 04-28-2012 at 05:15 PM.

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