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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.11.02
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    Level 20 Chaotic Good Half-Orc Male
    (2 Fighter \ 3 Barbarian \ 15 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 338
    Spell Points: 508 
    BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
    Fortitude: 18
    Reflex: 10
    Will: 16
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
    Strength             20                 26                   28
    Dexterity             9                 11                   11
    Constitution         17                 20                   21
    Intelligence          6                  6                    6
    Wisdom                8                  8                    8
    Charisma             12                 14                   14
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 17
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 17
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 17
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 17
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
    Balance               3                 20                   22
    Bluff                 1                  2                    2
    Concentration         3                  5                    5
    Diplomacy             1                  2                    2
    Disable Device       n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                1                  2                    2
    Heal                 -1                 -1                   -1
    Hide                 -1                  0                    0
    Intimidate            1                 12                   19
    Jump                  9                 19                   21
    Listen               -1                 -1                   -1
    Move Silently        -1                  0                    0
    Open Lock            n/a                n/a                   n/a
    Perform               5                 20                   24
    Repair               -2                 -2                   -2
    Search               -2                 -2                   -2
    Spot                 -1                 -1                   -1
    Swim                  5                  9                    9
    Tumble               n/a                n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      5                 22                   22
    
    {\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Goggles of Negative \par Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Necklace of Mineral \par Gnawed Ring \par Warchanter's Band \par Vorne's Belt \par Sustaining Symbiont \par  \par Level 1 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Perform (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
    Feat: (Automatic) Fascinate
    Feat: (Automatic) Half-Orc Orc Blood
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Courage
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longsword
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
    Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
    
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Intimidate (+2)
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Rage
    Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Rage
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
    Enhancement: Improved Perform I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) I
    Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Competence
    Spell (1): Focusing Chant
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Improved Jump I
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
    Spell (2): Rage
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Improved Perform II
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
    Spell (2): Blur
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: CON
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Suggestion
    Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Skill: Jump (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    Spell (2): Invisibility
    Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
    Spell (3): Haste
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Inspire Courage
    Spell (3): Displacement
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Greatness
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
    Enhancement: Improved Perform III
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Bullheaded
    Spell (3): Remove Curse
    Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
    Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude II
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (4): Dimension Door
    Enhancement: Improved Balance I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Song of Freedom
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
    Enhancement: Improved Jump II
    Enhancement: Improved Perform IV
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    Spell (4): Break Enchantment
    Spell (5): Greater Heroism
    Spell (5): Shadow Walk
    Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery IV
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (5): Mind Fog
    Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude III
    Enhancement: Improved Balance II
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Heroics
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    
    
    Level 18 (Fighter)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower I
    Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    Skill: Intimidate (+2)
    Feat: (Automatic) Damage Reduction
    Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
    Enhancement: Orcish Power Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
    
    
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Intimidate (+2)
    Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III

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    So the 3rd level of barbarian gives you... Hardy Rage? And in return you give up access to 6th level Bard spells? Doesn't really sound worth it to me. It would make much more sense for a Bard 16/Ftr 2/Barb 2

    EDIT: And surely there are better feats than Bullheaded that you can choose from.
    Last edited by WielderofGigantus; 11-17-2011 at 09:33 PM.

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    Default my 2cents

    Feats: bullheaded, force of personality and weapon focus slashing are all extremely poor performing feats in-game.

    A toughness, toughness and toughness would net you 66 more HP. Quicken, empower healing and shield mastery are also other higher performance feats you might want to look at.

    What do you want to do with this guy? I see you have intim (sorta). Besides being a nice meaty target for them to test their weapons on, why are you trying to get things to attack this toon? what defenses are you aiming to bring to the table? maybe outline gear and voice what your trying to accomplish so the advice can be more accurate? Also intim is usually an all or nothing skill, folks go for full ranks or usually none at all unless somebody pipes in with a viable use for a low intim...intim toon?

    Your level spread:
    3rd lev of barb brings less than 16th bard. Hands down. Its not a tough choice where you have to weigh pros and cons of each level and make a hard decision. Barb 3=junk while bard 16= significant survivability/CC.

    While i luv me some barb you have to quantify what those 3 (should be 2) levels are gaining you. Things that stand out are 10% run speed, sprint boost and +1 con enhancement. Your not gaining weapon profs, and your rage will be substandard near useless (more pain than worth with rage/casting conflicts fatigue and laughably short durations)

    Quantify what 2 more fighter would give you: weapon specialization unlocked as an avail feat (more DPS than barb) and mar feat!

    Bard 2 levels will give you more spells, SP, spell pen (for your irr dances) and all the other assorted goodies im sure you can view on the compendium just as easy as me.

    2 Rogue levels would be evasion, maybe traps, skills, and SA damage (prob highest performing 2 levels for a bard splash IMO)

    Even a single wiz level will bring some significant bonuses to the table if you look at it close enough (turn sideways and hop while rubbing your belly and tapping your nose)
    Last edited by jeremyt; 11-17-2011 at 10:09 PM.

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