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    Community Member Forzah's Avatar
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    Default 12 barb/6 ranger/2 rogue - viable?

    Hey all,

    Because I'm considering to LR my 18 barb 2 rogue into an 12 barb/6ranger/2fighter, I would like to hear some advice. I want to combine the damage from supreme cleave (using Esos) with many shot whenever I want to do ranged dps. I've worked out the following build:

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    Ragehead 
    Level 20 Neutral Good Dwarf Male
    (12 Barbarian \ 2 Rogue \ 6 Ranger) 
    Hit Points: 306
    Spell Points: 50 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 16
    Reflex: 16
    Will: 6
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             18                    26
    Dexterity            15                    18
    Constitution         14                    17
    Intelligence         12                    14
    Wisdom                8                    11
    Charisma              6                     9
    
    Tomes Used
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 6
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               6                    27
    Bluff                -2                    -1
    Concentration         2                     3
    Diplomacy            -2                    -1
    Disable Device        5                    25
    Haggle                2                     3
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                  2                     4
    Intimidate           -2                    -1
    Jump                  8                    19
    Listen               -1                     0
    Move Silently         2                     4
    Open Lock             6                     8
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair                1                     2
    Search                5                    27
    Spot                  3                     4
    Swim                  4                     8
    Tumble                6                     8
    Use Magic Device      2                    22
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stability
    Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stonecutting
    Feat: (Automatic) Giant Evasion
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
    Feat: (Automatic) Orc and Goblin Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Poison Save Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
    
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Rage
    Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Dwarven Waraxe
    Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Rage
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    
    
    Level 3 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Feat: (Automatic) Damage Reduction
    Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge
    
    
    Level 4 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense
    
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 6 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Uncanny Dodge
    
    
    Level 7 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 8 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 12 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Automatic) Greater Rage
    
    
    Level 13 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 14 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elemental
    Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
    Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
    
    
    Level 15 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
    Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Automatic) Diehard
    
    
    Level 17 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 18 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 19 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
    Is this build viable? Would I need any special gear? Is there something I can do better? Do I need point blank shot?

    Like to hear your thoughts,

    Forza

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    Community Member Arshan's Avatar
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    What are the ranger levels bringing if you go for THF ?

    I would say that this build is rather feat lacking. I'd advise you too look for something like 12 ranger 7 rogue 1 barb maybe ? Or 12 barb 6 fighter 2 rogue ? I also invite you to check the build in my signature, which is another kind of build like these... though all of these are TWF, not THF.

    I dont really see what you are going for with 12 barb 6 ranger 2 rogue... bowbarian ?

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    Many shot is still 20 sec / 120 sec timer ?
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    Fairly dated by now, but you can check out the amazon.

    As mentioned, it's a little odd to go 6 ranger and not use TWF.

    Your build is a little unfocused. If you want this to be a ranged build, you need AA; i.e. you need to be helf or elf.

    If you're going for melee, you should instead ditch thf for twf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forzah View Post
    I want to combine the damage from supreme cleave (using Esos) with many shot whenever I want to do ranged dps.
    And how often do you want to do ranged DPS? More precisely, are you really willing to sacrifice the melee DPS from barb 18 / FB III to get higher ranged DPS from Bow STR / Rapid Shot / Manyshot?
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    I currently have a toon with this build at level 13. 6 Barb/6 Ranger/1 Rogue. I will take my 2nd rogue level at 15. So far, it has been a blast. I would recommend you go TWF. Mine will be Tempest I, FB 2 when completed. Like I said, a lot of fun, easy to solo quests with UMD, solid rogue skills, levels pretty fast with the observation & diasble bonuses on every quest. Go for it!!!
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    Ranger levels are chosen to apply for manyshot, improve my reflex save and to get more skill points for trapskills. The idea of the build is to have viable ranged dps alongside serious THF dps (using ESoS). The ranged dps will be used for eDQ2, eLOB, and pvp. I absolutely hate TWF (got 2x litII dwarven axes tho), so the TWF feats are a bit of a waste for me.

    Seeing the above suggestions, it's probably more suitable to take 6 levels of fighter instead of 6 levels of ranger. This would do pretty much the same damage, it gives more feats at the expense of saves and skill points.

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    The amazon build is very interesting, and pretty similar to this one. As 12 barb I'd lose tireless rage tho, it's a tad annoying.

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