vote for new race!

[Imatotalnoob]

Gnomes, because we need an int based race for game balance.....
Yeah that's it, game balance....

[brightfang]

Gnomes, because we need an int based race for game balance.....
Yeah that's it, game balance....

We have Drow for Int.

[Failedlegend]

We have Drow for Int.

No Drow is a dex race and their limited to 28pts


We definately need the "Little People"Pack

Gnome: +2Int/Dex, -2Str/Wis (Racial enhancement for Int)

Kobold: +2Cha, -2Wis (Racial enhancement for Cha)

[Darkstar1996]

Kobold XVIII

Ooze I

Nice, Im gunna say a Zombie (Undead) Race, Ment for Rogue or Being Healer that gets mana from eating Dead Bodies

[Dvastator]

Chalk up another for Kobold!

Love the little guys!

[Mad_ScientistsNH]

Kobold would be fun, but I'm not really convinced about how practical it would be. Gnomes make a lot of sense to me, but they would need to be made very distinct from the other races in the game.

I guess I look at the current race list and think "This seems pretty good." because they have definite advantages and disadvantages to certain roles in the game. I think that any new race in the game should first be met with "What would have significantly different synergy with roles than the current races?" and work from there to find a race that fits that.

[Uska]

Gnomes, because we need an int based race for game balance.....
Yeah that's it, game balance....

Gnomes are a con race so that doesn't work and no to tinker gnomes they come from wrong world

[Uska]

No Drow is a dex race and their limited to 28pts


We definately need the "Little People"Pack

Gnome: +2Int/Dex, -2Str/Wis (Racial enhancement for Int)

Kobold: +2Cha, -2Wis (Racial enhancement for Cha)

Wrong gnomes are a con race

[Uska]

The dragonborn looks cool and fun in the facebook neverwinter game, but i'd prefer a race with an INT bonus.

Would be cool having gnomes with that kind of bonus, right?

except they are a con race

[Failedlegend]

Gnomes are a con race so that doesn't work and no to tinker gnomes they come from wrong world

Incorrect Eberron has always been a "melting pot" of sorts where you can see races,etc. from various "worlds" and even various editions (In the case off DDO)

Since +2Con/-2Str will make gnomes useless using tinker gnome stats (+2Int/Dex,-2Str/Wis) will actually make him pretty awesome and they would fit in perfectly with House Cannith (I actually thought Tinker Gnomes might come WITH house C).

[Uska]

Incorrect Eberron has always been a "melting pot" of sorts where you can see races,etc. from various "worlds" and even various editions (In the case off DDO)

Since +2Con/-2Str will make gnomes useless using tinker gnome stats (+2Int/Dex,-2Str/Wis) will actually make him pretty awesome and they would fit in perfectly with House Cannith (I actually thought Tinker Gnomes might come WITH house C).

Show me tinker gnomes right now in eberron cant can you eberron gnomes are normal gnomes and thats what we should get

[Failedlegend]

Show me tinker gnomes right now in eberron cant can you eberron gnomes are normal gnomes and thats what we should get

Good reading comprehension..I SAID "Eberron has always been a "melting pot" of sorts where you can see races,etc. from various worlds (aka settings)" thus Tinker gnomes COULD be added to Ebberon.

[Uska]

Good reading comprehension..I SAID "Eberron has always been a "melting pot" of sorts where you can see races,etc. from various worlds (aka settings)" thus Tinker gnomes COULD be added to Ebberon.

and I fail to see why they should as they have never been shown to be there just because people want an int race is no reason to add a alternate of a current race (by current I mean a race know to be on eberron and given information about). and yes I hate tinker gnomes always have and always will but funny I like regular gnomes.

[Failedlegend]

and I fail to see why they should as they have never been shown to be there just because people want an int race is no reason to add a alternate of a current race (by current I mean a race know to be on eberron and given information about). and yes I hate tinker gnomes always have and always will but funny I like regular gnomes.

Ok let's try a different approach...first off 3.5 is the ONLY edition that had gnomes as a Non-Int race...second off +2Con/-2Str is nigh useless I'll show you.

Tinker gnomes would be useful as Rogues,Wizards,Artificers

Other Races currently hold these

Half-Orc: Fighter, Barb and some Paladins (THF Only)
Half-Elf: All and freely uses AA
Human: All
Elf: None....this NEEDS to be fixed
Halfling: Rogues, Bards, Artificers
Drow: TWF Paladins
Warforged: Wizard, Sorc, FvS
Dwarf: Fighter & Paladin Tanks

In order of amount of classes their best in (including Tinker Gnome)

H-Elf (Wins by ability to use AA on any class)
Human
Tinker Gnome/Halfling/Warforged
Half-Orc
Dwarf
Drow
Elf



Now lets look at normal Gnomes +2 Con -2Str

Artificer? Nope Human, Halfling or H-Elf are far superior
Barbarian? Con Boost is nice but not worth Str Hit and Half-Orc & Warforged have better racials for it so nope
Bard? No reall bonuses here your better off with Halfling,Human or H-Elf
Cleric? Again no reason not go Human or H-ELf
FvS? See Cleric
Fighter? -2 Str nope
Monk? -2 Str Nope
Ranger? -2 Str nope
Rogue? -2 Str less crippling than other classes but nothing really useful to offset it
Sorc? OK here he would be helpful +2 Con makes for better savant ability but Human, H-Elf or Warforged are still better for this slot
Wiz? +1 Illusion is nice but is pointless since Human/H-Elves can match that just by having a higher Int score and Warforged have the bopnus of wicked self-healing

So verdict...+2Con/-2Str Gnomes would make Ok Sorcerors and suck in everything else while tinker gnomes would be competitive as Wizards, Rogues, Artificers and a handful of Bards putting up with them of the most used races in the game.

See the thing is currently Human/H-Elf are GOOD at everything so a race needs to be GREAT at least 1 but preferably 2 or 3 classes to be chosen over them which Gnomes would not make turbine much money Tinker Gnomes on the other hand would make GREAT Artificers,Rogues and Wizards which would make Turbine alot of Money.

[Uska]

Tinker gnomes would be useful as Rogues,Wizards,Artificers

Other Races currently hold these

Half-Orc: Fighter, Barb and some Paladins (THF Only)
Half-Elf: All and freely uses AA
Human: All
Elf: None....this NEEDS to be fixed
Halfling: Rogues, Bards, Artificers
Drow: TWF Paladins
Warforged: Wizard, Sorc, FvS
Dwarf: Fighter & Paladin Tanks

In order of amount of classes their best in (including Tinker Gnome)

H-Elf (Wins by ability to use AA on any class)
Human
Tinker Gnome/Halfling/Warforged
Half-Orc
Dwarf
Drow
Elf



Now lets look at normal Gnomes +2 Con -2Str

Artificer? Nope Human, Halfling or H-Elf are far superior
Barbarian? Con Boost is nice but not worth Str Hit and Half-Orc & Warforged have better racials for it so nope
Bard? No reall bonuses here your better off with Halfling,Human or H-Elf
Cleric? Again no reason not go Human or H-ELf
FvS? See Cleric
Fighter? -2 Str nope
Monk? -2 Str Nope
Ranger? -2 Str nope
Rogue? -2 Str less crippling than other classes but nothing really useful to offset it
Sorc? OK here he would be helpful +2 Con makes for better savant ability but Human, H-Elf or Warforged are still better for this slot
Wiz? +1 Illusion is nice but is pointless since Human/H-Elves can match that just by having a higher Int score and Warforged have the bopnus of wicked self-healing

So verdict...+2Con/-2Str Gnomes would make Ok Sorcerors and suck in everything else while tinker gnomes would be competitive as Wizards, Rogues, Artificers and a handful of Bards putting up with them of the most used races in the game.

See the thing is currently Human/H-Elf are GOOD at everything so a race needs to be GREAT at least 1 but preferably 2 or 3 classes to be chosen over them which Gnomes would not make turbine much money Tinker Gnomes on the other hand would make GREAT Artificers,Rogues and Wizards which would make Turbine alot of Money.

how would gnomes make turbine money? they should be free if they do come and if they arent free I dont see many paying money for them

[Failedlegend]

how would gnomes make turbine money? they should be free if they do come and if they arent free I dont see many paying money for them

So you won't pay for them...thus immediately invalidating your opinion...although Wax's idea may suit you (I'd be fine with this as well)

Regular Gnomes - Free
Tinker Gnomes - Favor Unlock/Store Buy
Deep Gnomes - Free to VIP/Store Buy

[Uska]

So you won't pay for them...thus immediately invalidating your opinion...although Wax's idea may suit you (I'd be fine with this as well)

Regular Gnomes - Free
Tinker Gnomes - Favor Unlock/Store Buy
Deep Gnomes - Free to VIP/Store Buy

No I said I dont think hardly anyone would pay for them and as to your list not bad except all should be free to VIP and if they add deep gnomes I want dark dwarves

[Failedlegend]

If they add deep gnomes I want dark dwarves

Well technically their already in the game just not as player characters :P but having those enlarge-like SLA as a Racial would be cool. Although I'd rather see "Sub-Races" as a variable (similar to Savant) enhancement line in the racial tree....ie. Shield Dwarf, Gold Dwarf, Dark Dwarf,etc. (like Aeranel & Varenal for now than drop-down list in the new system) than you can just use the Char Creation screen to match whichever you prefer.

[Uska]

Well technically their already in the game just not as player characters :P but having those enlarge-like SLA as a Racial would be cool. Although I'd rather see "Sub-Races" as a variable (similar to Savant) enhancement line in the racial tree....ie. Shield Dwarf, Gold Dwarf, Dark Dwarf,etc. (like Aeranel & Varenal for now than drop-down list in the new system) than you can just use the Char Creation screen to match whichever you prefer.

Hopefully we will get something at least later this year

[MRMechMan]

Warforged titan.

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