so... a monk ranger?

[huffandpuff]

i was tinkering with the thought of making a 12mnk\6rngr\2pal (or maybe 1 rog and 1 more monk)
and i was wondering: if i take zen archery i can dual manyshot and the new thousand stars in a rapid succesion 1 after another for making use of a ranged toon much more
since i rarely ever played with bows im wondering if monks actualy get ki if using a bow to shoot things
i know they dont with shurikens, just wondering if zen archery changes that.
for anyone who forgot\didnt read the feat - zen archery lets u use long\shortbows as ki weapons

thoughts?

edit: and if anyone already did this - does thousand stars and manyshot use same timer?

[voodoogroves]

Yes, quite a popular build these days, though the other 2 levels are often fighter or rogue and not paladin.

Lots of threads on those about ... and yeah, can work

[wax_on_wax_off]

You never get ki for attacking with a ranged weapon. However, there are a few ways around this:
1. Swap to melee when manyshot/10k stars is on timer.
2. Passive Ki gen in water stance III.
3. Getting hit in eart stance.
4. Being below a certain HP threshold and having badger philosophy.

A combination of 1 to 3 should work nicely for this build.

Level wise, I'd go halfelf for rogue dilettant and AA and take the last 2 levels as fighter as feats are quite tight on this build (and it gives more HP, haste boost, +1 strength etc).

[huffandpuff]

ill admit, i was lazy and didnt look through the forum...
besides, i never look up builds - what's the fun in copying someone else's build?
any way, thx for the advice but i was thinking more along the line of earth 3
also, does shuriken expertiese feat stack with this whole thing?
if not, does it stack with 10k stars for shurikens? as in % for 3 shurikens at once?
and how does that work with windstance\doublestrike %?

[elg582]

I'm leveling one of these up right now, loosely based on Hong Kong Pewy (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=349060), but 1st life and elf since I don't have helf. I moved stunning fist to the end (since I figured I would be ranging more at lower levels) and took weapon finesse because my DEX is going to be so much higher than my STR (and since I'm really only going to use melee to charge up ki...).

High wisdom is important for 10,000 stars; even with 30 WIS, it's not as good as manyshot, so make sure you're set up with the right gear.

[DrNuegebauer]

I'm leveling one of these up right now, loosely based on Hong Kong Pewy (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=349060), but 1st life and elf since I don't have helf. I moved stunning fist to the end (since I figured I would be ranging more at lower levels) and took weapon finesse because my DEX is going to be so much higher than my STR (and since I'm really only going to use melee to charge up ki...).

High wisdom is important for 10,000 stars; even with 30 WIS, it's not as good as manyshot, so make sure you're set up with the right gear.

You probably should go for a STR/WIS build still.

STR is for ranged damage and WIS will take over as ranged "to hit" if higher than Dex.

[elg582]

You probably should go for a STR/WIS build still.

STR is for ranged damage and WIS will take over as ranged "to hit" if higher than Dex.

Sure, but I need 19 DEX for imp precise shot, which I'm getting from 16 base + 1 level +2 tome, but then I get +2 from ranger and +2 from elf which makes it tough to keep WIS higher than DEX even in water stance and the other 4 levels in WIS.

I'm not ignoring STR; 14 base +2 tome +6 item +2 Ram's +2 ship + 2 rage +2 fire stance = 30 without trying.