Looking for an up to date 32pt Monk Build for starters

[slothi]

Hey there,

as the title says, I'm looking for a 32pt Monk Build, which is kinda up to date. I looked into Mentaru & Martens Builds and some others, though either they're pretty outdated or they're based on 34/36 pts.
I played a monk years ago but as it seems, lot of things have changed.
I don't have any tomes yet, so that's probably an additional problem.

So in essence, can anyone recommend a solid build, that can solo a bit in endgame and isn't completly useless in raids?

[Memek]

Dwarf Monk with strong stuns. You'll need a +1 tome at level 8 to take Improved Two Weapon Fighting at 9.

Enhancements are set up for Void 4. Those require a +2 Wis and +2 Con tome, but you dont have to be in a hurry there - can just run without Void 4 until you get your tomes.

Alternatively you can go
HElf for Heal scrolls at level 15,
HOrc for higher attack bonus and a bit more damage or
Human for an extra feat and more heal amp.

But those will have lower stun DCs and HP.

Weak points of the build are HP (but Earth stance helps) and attack bonus when you want to tank some nasty stuff.

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.8.0
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Stunning Dwarf
Level 20 Lawful Neutral Dwarf Male
(20 Monk) 
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 16
Will: 16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    23
Dexterity            16                    18
Constitution         16                    19
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               14                    18
Charisma              6                     6

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 8
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Monk)


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 7 (Monk)


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Monk)


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons OR Stunning Blow OR Toughness


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Monk Serenity
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics I
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics II
Enhancement: Ten Thousand Stars
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III
Enhancement: Shintao Monk I
Enhancement: Shintao Monk II
Enhancement: Shintao Monk III
Enhancement: Void Strike I
Enhancement: Void Strike II
Enhancement: Void Strike III
Enhancement: Void Strike IV
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Master of Thunder
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Mountains
Enhancement: Master of Stone
Enhancement: Adept of Flame
Enhancement: Master of Bonfires
Enhancement: Adept of Rain
Enhancement: Master of the Sea
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Balance I
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II

[Redicular]

So in essence, can anyone recommend a solid build, that can solo a bit in endgame and isn't completly useless in raids?

not without tomes at all, though generally you can delay the +2s for everything not dex until 17/18 GM stances come into play. you either need to use a +2 dex tome by level 9, or you have to build to have 17 dex at lvl 9... that would mean at least 16 or better starting dex... and that kinda build kills raid utility. Its fine as a leveling build, but very poor for shroud or anything after

anyway, before i can draw up a build, couple questions

path?
light = more support, better vs dr, less dps, fewer spare AP
dark = more survivable, better dps, less utility, dr requires money or grinding

pre and/or void 4
it "is" possible to have either pre AND void 4, but that's 3/4 of your ap used. void 4 costs 34 ap, shintao 3 adds 20(improved recovery) or 22(rise of the phoenix), ninja 2 adds 14

ninja spy eats one feat(dodge), shintao technically eats 2, but i wasn't going to make a build that didn't have stunning fist in it anyway

for a newbie, water/wind shintao 3 with t3 earth and rise is probably the most utilitarian build. give me a little info on what you want and I'll draw it up in the char creator... tomorrow

[slothi]

Thanks for the input so far.

I'll probably want to try out shintao for the first monk, because of the healing abilities.

[Redicular]

shintao healer, for the low low price of complete raid uselessness, i can even throw in halflling dragonmarks... actually a halfling dragonmarked shintao would be a pretty solid build for leveling...

anyway...

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Minimal Tome 
Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(20 Monk) 
Hit Points: 282
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 16
Will: 17

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             14                 21                   22
Dexterity            16                 18                   18
Constitution         14                 16                   16
Intelligence          8                  8                    8
Wisdom               16                 18                   21
Charisma              8                 10                   10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 8
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 17
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 17
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    25
Bluff                -1                     0
Concentration         6                    41
Diplomacy            -1                     0
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                     1
Heal                  3                     5
Hide                  3                     4
Intimidate           -1                     0
Jump                  2                     6
Listen                3                     5
Move Silently         3                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                    -1
Spot                  7                    27
Swim                  2                     6
Tumble                4                     5
Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a

 Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Improved Sunder


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 15 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 17 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 18 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Concentration


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Enhancement: Monk Serenity
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III
Enhancement: Shintao Monk I
Enhancement: Shintao Monk II
Enhancement: Shintao Monk III
Enhancement: Void Strike I
Enhancement: Unbalancing Strike
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Storms
Enhancement: Master of Thunder
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Master of Stone
Enhancement: Adept of Rain
Enhancement: Master of the Sea
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II

dual-role build, run wind stance for dmg, ocean for mob control/oh **** i have aggro

given the changes to earth stance(god thats a lot of threat) I no longer recommend it for new players who may not be able to deal with being the target. also, this is a rogue dille build, and while unbalancing is good for enabling SA(particularly with 30 wisdom* backing it up) its not available for every target.

cleave can be replaced by any shintao pre-req feat: Cleave, Diehard, Discipline, Luck of Heroes, Precision, Resilience, Self Sufficient. obviously no combat expertise you don't have the INT for it

skill focus: concentration can be replaced by any feat at all

cycle your strikes (earth> air > water) and spam your buffs, you have access to moment of clarity, but its a pain to setup in this build once void 1 stops being useful damage... use that stupid high concentration to pre-load it.

welcome to the world of bugged handwraps.

*3 from master ocean, 21 enhancement modded wis, +6 wis item

[elg582]

"Up to date"? About the only thing that has changed lately are earth stances and improved sunder, so pick an older build and try to fit them in.

My suggestion:

Human

STR 15 <--level points go here
DEX 16
CON 15
INT 8
WIS 15
CHA 8

Skills:

Concentration
Balance
Jump
Spot

Feats:

Toughness
TWF
Power Attack
Stunning Fist
Improved Sunder
Dodge
IC: Bludgeon
iTWF
gTWF
Toughness