The Emerald v 2.0 Updated for U12 - Monk12/Fighter6/Paladin2

[korsat]

great build, hard geared.
is power attack useless in this build?

[Grieve]

great build, hard geared.
is power attack useless in this build?

You most likely could fit it in, but as the OP has said before the damage output from the build is solid enough. More DPS is never a bad thing though.

I would probably think that if someone wanted to pick up Power Attack they would drop either a Toughness feat or the Ranger PL feat.

[Droken]

great build, hard geared.
is power attack useless in this build?

The to-hit of this build is not phenominal. I personally use power attack during the leveling process, but then swap it out for a more tankish feat at 20th. You can not use both power attack and combat expertise at the same time, and I generally almost always have combat expertise on except while doing epics.

[MeatSheild]

I know alot of ppl have been asking on how this build should be lv'd, and the OP has stated before that one should know (and you realy should), that he has a limited play time, and that he used a few hearts of wood to swap some lv's around. I'm will be TR'ing into this build soon (well close to it). I will only be a 34 point build and I'm using a +3 int and con (might be more soon) tome at lv 11 as well as a full set of tomes at 7. I took this lv path to max what I thought were important skills (intim, concentration, and some UMD and ballance), but you might choose to take a diffrent path for other reasons. I hope this helps someone out there.

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Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(6 Fighter \ 2 Paladin \ 12 Monk) 
Hit Points: 451
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 15
Will: 18

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             14                 16                   16
Dexterity            16                 18                   19
Constitution         14                 17                   18
Intelligence         10                 13                   13
Wisdom               16                 23                   25
Charisma              8                 10                   10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               7                 19                   23
Bluff                -1                  0                    0
Concentration         6                 27                   30
Diplomacy            -1                  0                    0
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                  0                    0
Heal                  3                  7                    7
Hide                  3                  4                    8
Intimidate            0.5               23                   27
Jump                  2                  3                    5
Listen                3                  7                    7
Move Silently         3                  4                    4
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                  1                    1
Search                0                  1                    1
Spot                  3                  7                    7
Swim                  2                  3                    3
Tumble                4                  5                    7
Use Magic Device      1                 11                   11

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Intimidate (+1.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Intimidate (+3)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+3)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+3)


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 15 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise


Level 18 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Master of Stone
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Half-Elf Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II

[-Zyxas-]

I know alot of ppl have been asking on how this build should be lv'd, and the OP has stated before that one should know (and you realy should), that he has a limited play time, and that he used a few hearts of wood to swap some lv's around. I'm will be TR'ing into this build soon (well close to it). I will only be a 34 point build and I'm using a +3 int and con (might be more soon) tome at lv 11 as well as a full set of tomes at 7. I took this lv path to max what I thought were important skills (intim, concentration, and some UMD and ballance), but you might choose to take a diffrent path for other reasons. I hope this helps someone out there.

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Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(6 Fighter \ 2 Paladin \ 12 Monk) 
Hit Points: 451
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 15
Will: 18

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             14                 16                   16
Dexterity            16                 18                   19
Constitution         14                 17                   18
Intelligence         10                 13                   13
Wisdom               16                 23                   25
Charisma              8                 10                   10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               7                 19                   23
Bluff                -1                  0                    0
Concentration         6                 27                   30
Diplomacy            -1                  0                    0
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                  0                    0
Heal                  3                  7                    7
Hide                  3                  4                    8
Intimidate            0.5               23                   27
Jump                  2                  3                    5
Listen                3                  7                    7
Move Silently         3                  4                    4
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                  1                    1
Search                0                  1                    1
Spot                  3                  7                    7
Swim                  2                  3                    3
Tumble                4                  5                    7
Use Magic Device      1                 11                   11

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Intimidate (+1.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Intimidate (+3)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+3)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+3)


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 14 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 15 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise


Level 18 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Master of Stone
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Half-Elf Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II

This looks like a good layout.

[Thrudh]

The to-hit of this build is not phenominal. I personally use power attack during the leveling process, but then swap it out for a more tankish feat at 20th. You can not use both power attack and combat expertise at the same time, and I generally almost always have combat expertise on except while doing epics.

Get a paladin past-life (+3 to hit and damage)
Craft up some +5 Greater Banes (+9 to hit)
Sneak attack gear for when you're not tanking.

I have all these things on my tank (and Power Attack) so I can contribute in epics (where AC is pointless)

[Thrudh]

I know alot of ppl have been asking on how this build should be lv'd, and the OP has stated before that one should know (and you realy should), that he has a limited play time, and that he used a few hearts of wood to swap some lv's around. I'm will be TR'ing into this build soon (well close to it). I will only be a 34 point build and I'm using a +3 int and con (might be more soon) tome at lv 11 as well as a full set of tomes at 7. I took this lv path to max what I thought were important skills (intim, concentration, and some UMD and ballance), but you might choose to take a diffrent path for other reasons. I hope this helps someone out there.

Why wait until 19-20 to get those two paladin levels? I'd get them much earlier so you could use wands while leveling, and the extra AC and bonus to saves while leveling.

[kendo]

Why wait until 19-20 to get those two paladin levels? I'd get them much earlier so you could use wands while leveling, and the extra AC and bonus to saves while leveling.

I was wondering the same. I was leaning more towards the build order that Shigura threw out there. though I would take monk first level, not fighter. always go with the class that gives the most skill points for first level, that x4 modifier makes a big difference.

[MeatSheild]

Why wait until 19-20 to get those two paladin levels? I'd get them much earlier so you could use wands while leveling, and the extra AC and bonus to saves while leveling.

Like I said for me its about maxing skills. Concentration and intim are key to this build, and out of the three classes pali is the only one that has them both not as a cross class skill. Yes one could take the pali earlier and have some limited use of wands/scrolls, but for me its all about end game (I'll spend 6 weeks max tring and months at 20) so the wand use while lving would not be optimal for me in the long run. I had actualy planned out taking the pali lv's much earlier, but when I compaired the two builds side by side both sitting at 20 the numbers convinced me to go the way I posted (again many reasons and many ways to get to 20 just all on peresonal preferance).

P.S. Wholeness of body at lv 7 (+heal amp gear while lving and possiblly going light monk till cap then a lesser)

[Blacktista]

just wanted to say ty for that build, this is what i have so far on my first life

[Aegnore]

just wanted to say ty for that build, this is what i have so far on my first life

nice stats......... but wrong thread. =) thats a 12/6/2 ftr/mo/pal

[gavijal]

yea, but this build seems to have more hp, better saves, better ac or I don't get it?

[Blacktista]

nice stats......... but wrong thread. =) thats a 12/6/2 ftr/mo/pal

well the same person made this build as well so wanted to say thanks to him.

[Darknark]

yea, but this build seems to have more hp, better saves, better ac or I don't get it?

You mean the posted screenshot of a V1 variant (pic of Moarclicks)? [Kelida V1 was 12/6/2 F/P/M, Moarclicks is a 12/6/2 F/M/P].
The differences you noticed are likely due to that picture being a "Non-selfbuffed, raid-buffed" (Pally aura, bard... etc) picture, while Kelida's [V2] picture in post #1 is a self buffed picture (and also w/o GH, and w/o barkskin on [3ac]).

[bigdmag]

Is it possible to make a WF version of this. I am in a static group that wants to TR into an all WF group and I have drawn the role of "tank". This build looks awesome but not sure how much it would lose by being WF.

[Khellendros13]

You mean the posted screenshot of a V1 variant (pic of Moarclicks)? [Kelida V1 was 12/6/2 F/P/M, Moarclicks is a 12/6/2 F/M/P].
The differences you noticed are likely due to that picture being a "Non-selfbuffed, raid-buffed" (Pally aura, bard... etc) picture, while Kelida's [V2] picture in post #1 is a self buffed picture (and also w/o GH, and w/o barkskin on [3ac]).

I don't like to nitpick, but in the OP screenshot he has a Wisdon Yugo pot running, which is +4 nat AC. He also mentioned having +4nat slotted on an epic item.

Raid buffed Kelida would get +4 IH, +1 Bark, then +5 from a max aura Pally. He has Recitation running already too.

[Darknark]

I don't like to nitpick, but in the OP screenshot he has a Wisdon Yugo pot running, which is +4 nat AC. He also mentioned having +4nat slotted on an epic item.

Raid buffed Kelida would get +4 IH, +1 Bark, then +5 from a max aura Pally. He has Recitation running already too.

Forgot about his wis pots.

[LordKalkin]

I am very interested in this build. I have an L20 dex/wis halfing monk (Rockan Roban build), that I was thinking of TRing into the Emerald 2.0.

At this point I do not have HElf as a race. I regret not getting the half bloods pack when it was on sale. I assume HElf was picked solely for rogue dillatante and sneak attack damage? What will I lose/gain if I go human (extra feat) or elf?

[NaturalHazard]

The to-hit of this build is not phenominal. I personally use power attack during the leveling process, but then swap it out for a more tankish feat at 20th. You can not use both power attack and combat expertise at the same time, and I generally almost always have combat expertise on except while doing epics.

So if you want to do epics a lot, would it be ok to drop 1 toughness feat and keep power attack?

I have all the gear you listed but im missing the alchemical handwraps and gloves of the claw but I got the epic charged gauntlets and can wear the full epic abishai set. I have cold iron/silver and adamite wraps, would that be good enough with a burst adn greater bane crafted on?

Also have the epic seal of earth and a encrusted ring.

How is this build for self healing during leveling? Im just asking as all my toons to this point have had a pretty decent self healing access while leveling? I know next to nothing about monks would it be possible to level for a bit as a light monk then may use a free feat swap and then change enhancements to dark when im high enough to umd heal scrolls?

[NaturalHazard]

Is it possible to make a WF version of this. I am in a static group that wants to TR into an all WF group and I have drawn the role of "tank". This build looks awesome but not sure how much it would lose by being WF.

healing amp?