Help With Tank Build

[BinyaminTsadik]

I'd Appreciate any advice on the build, including what to stick in the epic slots

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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(6 Fighter \ 14 Paladin) 
Hit Points: 494
Spell Points: 190 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 28
Reflex: 13
Will: 12

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    21
Dexterity            10                    12
Constitution         18                    26
Intelligence         11                    13
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             11                    14

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                 Feat/Enhancement
                  Modified Skills
Skills             (Level 20)
Balance                  1
Bluff                    3
Concentration           34
Diplomacy                3
Disable Device           n/a
Haggle                   2
Heal                     0
Hide                     1
Intimidate              28
Jump                    17
Listen                   0
Move Silently            1
Open Lock                n/a
Perform                  n/a
Repair                   1
Search                   1
Spot                     0
Swim                     5
Tumble                   2
Use Magic Device        13

Notable Equipment  
Supreme Tyrant +5 Green Steel Greataxe of Mineral 
Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Goggles of Balance of Land and Sky 
Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Goggles of Smoke 
Epic Chimera's Crown 
Epic Envenomed Cloak
Levik's Defender 
Levik's Bracers 
Stalwart Necklace 
Epic Brawn's Spirits 
Cinder's Band 
Epic Belt of the Mroranon 
Epic Charged Gauntlets 
Epic Boots of Corrosion 
Epic Ring of the Silver Concord 
Epic Cavalry Plate 
Epic Chimera Fang
Dragontouched Plate Armor 


Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Sentinel
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shield Mastery
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Trip


Level 2 (Paladin)
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Good
Feat: (Automatic) Smite Evil


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Divine Grace
Feat: (Automatic) Lay on Hands


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: CON
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack


Level 5 (Paladin)
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Divine Health
Feat: (Automatic) Fear Immunity


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Sentinel
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
Spell (1): Bless
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Lesser Restoration
Spell (1): Lionheart
Spell (1): Protection From Evil
Spell (1): Resistance
Spell (1): Seek Eternal Rest
Spell (1): Virtue


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CON
Feat: (Automatic) Remove Disease


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: CON
Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Sentinel
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)
Spell (2): Angelskin
Spell (2): Bull's Strength
Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Remove Paralysis
Spell (2): Resist Energy


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CON


Level 17 (Paladin)
Spell (3): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (3): Dispel Magic
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Spell (3): Prayer
Spell (3): Remove Blindness
Spell (3): Remove Curse


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CON
Spell (4): Break Enchantment
Spell (4): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (4): Death Ward
Spell (4): Holy Sword
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (4): Restoration
Spell (4): Stalwart Pact
Spell (4): Zeal
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost II
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Kensei Bastard Sword Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) II
Enhancement: Fighter Tower Shield Mastery I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys I
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV

[BinyaminTsadik]

I am particularly interested in achieving the max Dex for the highest AC and not going above (wasting dex bonus)

[aerendhil]

You need at least 18 levels of either fighter or Paladin to reach 3rd Tier Pre, which is a huge boost.
14/6 is just a bad split
Either go pure or 18/2

I have a Chimera defender, i started at 11 Dex +7 item, +2Tome, +2Ship => 22 equal to a +6 bonus
which is just what I need with a cavalry plate & fighter armor mastery

[BinyaminTsadik]

Just to get it straight

Feats required are

3 dragonmarks + Toughness + 2 Sheild Masteries + Combat Expertise + Improved Sunder = 8

Does this mean that a pure paladin could do it? Or am I missing a prerequisite feat somewhere?

That said, the Epic Belt of the Mroranon would be replaced with the DOS ToD set, and the neck will be the Epic Grim's bracelet

[Tirisha]

Just to get it straight

Feats required are

3 dragonmarks + Toughness + 2 Sheild Masteries + Combat Expertise + Improved Sunder = 8

Does this mean that a pure paladin could do it? Or am I missing a prerequisite feat somewhere?

well improved sunder isn't mandatory for any build (you could just let somebody else use the feat). You can't take improved sunder without taking PA either. The second Shield Mastery isn't mandatory it's boost is only slight in comparison to the first.

I'd use the fighter feats for things like PA and THF feats, those will make you more useful while not tanking and increase your threat/dps while tanking as well.

improved crit would also be nice for when you aren't using the fang (it won't always be the best choice)

Also I may be tired but did you take all the human improved recovery? I could only see one.... anyways off to bed

[BinyaminTsadik]

well improved sunder isn't mandatory for any build (you could just let somebody else use the feat). You can't take improved sunder without taking PA either. The second Shield Mastery isn't mandatory it's boost is only slight in comparison to the first.

I'd use the fighter feats for things like PA and THF feats, those will make you more useful while not tanking and increase your threat/dps while tanking as well.

improved crit would also be nice for when you aren't using the fang (it won't always be the best choice)

Also I may be tired but did you take all the human improved recovery? I could only see one.... anyways off to bed

Improved Crit is not required with a Min II either

[Memek]

Drop Con to 16, put level ups into Strength.
Noone needs a do-nothing-and-survive-it character in their group.

[Tirisha]

Improved Crit is not required with a Min II either

true but a min 2 isn't optimal, you can craft an unbound dr breaker that does better.

[SensaiRyu]

Drop Con to 16, put level ups into Strength.
Noone needs a do-nothing-and-survive-it character in their group.

I second this...

[unbongwah]

I am particularly interested in achieving the max Dex for the highest AC and not going above (wasting dex bonus)

3 epic Cavalry Plate
1 DoS III (med armor)
2 slotted with Greater Nimbleness
6 MDB (DEX 22)

Epic Red Dragonplate works out the same MDB (2+2+2).

There are other ways of boosting MDB on a (mostly) pure pally: ftr past life, dwarven Armor Mastery, Mobility is supposed to be changed to add +2 MDB. But those don't seem to be options for this build, given your intention to use epic Chimera Fang + Sentinel DMs.

As for your stats, I agree: too much CON, not enough CHA, and level-ups should go into STR.

[Madchicken]

I agree with the previous posts on the stats but before you get any further Id decide on a new build option but thats my opinion mate.

[BinyaminTsadik]

3 epic Cavalry Plate
1 DoS III (med armor)
2 slotted with Greater Nimbleness
6 MDB (DEX 22)

Epic Red Dragonplate works out the same MDB (2+2+2).

There are other ways of boosting MDB on a (mostly) pure pally: ftr past life, dwarven Armor Mastery, Mobility is supposed to be changed to add +2 MDB. But those don't seem to be options for this build, given your intention to use epic Chimera Fang + Sentinel DMs.

As for your stats, I agree: too much CON, not enough CHA, and level-ups should go into STR.

What about a tower sheild? Greater Nimbleness would only work on the armor

[wax_on_wax_off]

I quite like the 18 paly, 2 fighter build for a chimaera's defender.

This gives 10 feats (7 base, 2 fighter, 1 human) for THF'ing*3, Sentinel DM*3, Toughness, Quicken, Maximise, Shield Mastery.

Quicken and Maximise are optional but I can see a compelling argument for these when tanking in epic content (especially if you have access to torc/conc-opp).

Stats wise, 16 starting con is plenty and level ups definitely don't need to go there. On a 34 point build I'd go something like 16 str, 10 dex, 16 con, 12 int, 8 wis, 15 cha.
Int is for intimidate, concentration, UMD, balance (from level 7) and 1 whole rank in tumble.
+6 damage from DMIII at 18 charisma is very nice so 15 base allows for a +3 charisma tome.

[unbongwah]

What about a tower sheild? Greater Nimbleness would only work on the armor

Base MDB 4 on mithril tower shield + 3 MDB from DoS III = 7 MDB.

This gives 10 feats (7 base, 2 fighter, 1 human) for THF'ing*3, Sentinel DM*3, Toughness, Quicken, Maximise, Shield Mastery.

No Power Atk? That seems...unwise.