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[DemonStorm333]

just woundering if this was a good build 3rd life bard


Level 20 Neutral Good Dwarf Male
(18 Bard \ 2 Artificer)
Hit Points: 424
Spell Points: 715
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 20
Reflex: 17
Will: 13

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 14 16 16
Dexterity 14 16 16
Constitution 20 27 29
Intelligence 10 12 13
Wisdom 8 8 8
Charisma 12 14 15

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 10
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 10
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 10
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 10

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 2 3 7
Bluff 1 2 2
Concentration 9 30 31
Diplomacy 1 2 2
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 5 25 29
Heal -1 -1 -1
Hide 2 3 3
Intimidate 1 2 6
Jump 2 26 30
Listen -1 -1 -1
Move Silently 2 3 3
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform n/a 25 29
Repair 0 1 1
Search 0 1 3
Spot -1 -1 -1
Swim 2 3 3
Tumble 4 25.5 29.5
Use Magic Device 5 25 25

{\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Goggles of Negative \par Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Necklace of Mineral \par Vorne's Belt \par Morah's Band \par Gnawed Ring \par \par Level 1 (Artificer)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Artificer Construct Mastery
Feat: (Automatic) Artificer Knowledge: Scrolls
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stability
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stonecutting
Feat: (Automatic) Giant Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Inscribe Artificer Scroll
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Orc and Goblin Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Poison Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Reload
Feat: (Automatic) Revive Iron Defender
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
Feat: (Automatic) Unleash Iron Defender
Spell (1): Ablative Armor
Spell (1): Conjure Bolts
Enhancement: Artificer Crossbow Damage I
Enhancement: Artificer Item Defense I
Enhancement: Artificer Energy of Creation I


Level 2 (Artificer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Artificer Knowledge: Potions
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Great Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Repeating Heavy Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Repeating Light Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Rune Arm Use
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Spell (1): Resist Energy
Enhancement: Artificer Improved Rune Arm Use I
Enhancement: Dwarven Poison Resistance I
Enhancement: Artificer Intelligence I


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Perform (+5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
Feat: (Automatic) Fascinate
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Improved Perform I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Competence
Spell (1): Focusing Chant
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Improved Haggle I
Enhancement: Improved Jump I


Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Rage
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Perform II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Master's Touch
Spell (2): Blur
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Suggestion
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Spell (2): Invisibility
Spell (3): Haste
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Enhancement: Artificer Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I


Level 10 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Inspire Courage
Spell (3): Displacement
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 11 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Greatness
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (3): Remove Curse
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Dimension Door
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II


Level 14 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Song of Freedom
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV


Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot
Spell (4): Break Enchantment
Spell (5): Greater Heroism
Spell (5): Shadow Walk
Enhancement: Improved Haggle II
Enhancement: Improved Jump III
Enhancement: Improved Perform III
Enhancement: Improved Perform IV


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (5): Greater Dispel Magic
Enhancement: Improved Haggle III
Enhancement: Improved Haggle IV
Enhancement: Improved Jump IV
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Heroics
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II


Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Spell (5): Mind Fog
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (6): Mass Fox's Cunning
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (6): Heroes Feast
Spell (2): Soundburst
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Mass Suggestion
Spell (3): Good Hope
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble III
Enhancement: Improved Tumble IV
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III


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[Sogrin]

Hi Welcome

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you kinda messed up the code, so it is a little hard to read.

however, a few things i want to ask

1: what will the character be doing once it's finished buffing?
2: why do you have more then a modified 10 in jump?
3: what are you getting out of the 2 artificer levels?

also, this really should be in the character builds sections of the forums, not here.

[Skani]

just woundering if this was a good build 3rd life bard

No

And there's too many fails in it to even list them. Check some standard builds on bard forum and customize one of them to something that would suit you most, but stick to few rules - like f.e don't put all your stat lvl ups in CON.

[Scortius]

Oooh its a hp/mobility build without CC options, and no gear. Don't see many of those, these days.

[DemonStorm333]

Hi Welcome

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you kinda messed up the code, so it is a little hard to read.

however, a few things i want to ask

1: what will the character be doing once it's finished buffing?
2: why do you have more then a modified 10 in jump?
3: what are you getting out of the 2 artificer levels?

also, this really should be in the character builds sections of the forums, not here.

well the mod + in jump was a dump
the 2 arty give me runarm use bc im not going 2 weapon fighting
and once he finished buffing he will be fighting with a heavy repeater

[~herbstlich]

Why do you need 4 min of resist energy?

[Sogrin]

well the mod + in jump was a dump
the 2 arty give me runarm use bc im not going 2 weapon fighting
and once he finished buffing he will be fighting with a heavy repeater

put the spare points from jump into balance. they will be usefull there instead of wasted.

you dont have to TWF, there is also THF, but i guess this is more personal choice

you wont hit anything with a dex of 16 (which can get to 24/5 if geared right). If your not using bard CC at all, put your levelups in Dex, not Con (although you would level up Cha if you were using CC). You can also drop some points in initial build from Con to Dex, as being at range the entire time, a point or two less from concentration wont really matter too much. and losing some hp wont matter too much. over 400 before gear is more then enough for ranged.