Lightning Strike

[sephiroth1084]

heh, it appears we have to figure it out ourselves, that's a lot of tedious work, and a 'that's correct' from a dev is a reward i'd be more than happy with.


well, that and some FRDS. i like them. they're like cookies, but inedible and can be turned into armor.

+1 to you, sir.

Oh, I'm definitely glad that Eladrin poked in to confirm Kinerd's results, and I'd actually support a move to the devs giving rewards to players who come up with this kind of info. Forget a FRDS, I say just give Kinerd, MonkeyArcher, Vanshilar, a full set!

[grayham]

As many have said, wow. +1.

You are what makes this 'ere interweb such a wonderful thing, giving your time and considerable skills up for no other reason than informing others. Awesome.

On topic- is there a "proc calculation" information page somewhere? My anecdotal observations tell me that there are common procs (madstone) occasional procs (Lightning strike) and then procs I don't believe exist (disintegration guard on fleshshapers brigandine). If all of these plus things like concordant opposition were collated on a singular page that would be magnificent.

And if they haven't, have I just talked myself into an 'action'?

D'oh!

[Solmage]

+1 for the amazing hard work in figuring this out without automated recording tools.

I'd pay real cash/turbine points for a combat log logging feature, provided it didn't slow down the game, and were time stamped.

[Khellendros13]

So why couldn't a Dev have confirmed this earlier...wow.

Thanks anyway I guess

[Cam_Neely]

A virtual +1 to you. (My +1's don't do anything. Very sad. So you get information instead.)

Lightning Strike on weapons is 1.5% application probability, and is indeed 20d20+400 electrical damage.

Ill hit the +1 for ya Eladrin, its great info OP.

The 20d20+400 is weighted dice, correct? Any chance you could give us more info on the weighing of it?

[Diyon]

Ill hit the +1 for ya Eladrin, its great info OP.

The 20d20+400 is weighted dice, correct? Any chance you could give us more info on the weighing of it?

Weighted dice are only used for some spell damages (non DoT I believe). And those are written as they are, like 1d3+3 rather than 1d6. 20d20+400 is exactly as it's written.

[HumanJHawkins]

A virtual +1 to you. (My +1's don't do anything. Very sad. So you get information instead.)

Lightning Strike on weapons is 1.5% application probability, and is indeed 20d20+400 electrical damage.

It does not take a statistical analysis to see that hitting this right in the bulls-eye warrants more than a +1. And yet, that is all I can give.

I work with statistics a lot, but do not have formal training. I actually learned a really important thing about standard deviation from the OP on this. Thanks Kinerd.

[Valakai]

Impressive maths. And thank you for this. Also very nice to get the actual formula for this. Was estimating it around 10pts / strike so was not too far off.

I hereby nominate you for the nerD&nerD Online award 2011. Competition is tough but rewards are fluff.

[Astraghal]

A virtual +1 to you. (My +1's don't do anything. Very sad. So you get information instead.)

Lightning Strike on weapons is 1.5% application probability, and is indeed 20d20+400 electrical damage.

Why are you telling us this now?

[grandeibra]

maybe because he was impressed with the fact that OP deduced the correct % and dice

[Razcar]

Jesus Amalia. Your stat-fu is indeed impressive, as is your patience. 14 000 hits. +1 and a thank you to you, Sir.

[etelan]

I wonder if yk49 is still updating the proc rate thread...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=176176

[KyrzaBladedancer]

Big +1 to you!

Curious, did you turn on Auto Attack and Record it for a few hours and go back through it as you got time or did you just do it all at once?

[slimkj]

Ooh, had a nerdgasm. Cheers, and popped in to +rep.

[dTarkanan]

How much time did it take to work this up? What server are you on? Can people donate research grants to keep you at the Dummy and calculator instead of raiding, or ingredients to get the various proc's crafted? I'm thinking having solid numbers for the proc-rates on a lot of these traits would be very useful for planning out new gearsets, especially the proc heavy alchemical weapons.

Also handy would be knowing the chances of the Fabricator Bracers 'proc.

[Kinerd]

Just want to say again how I appreciate everyone's comments. I've been pleasantly surprised by how positive the feedback has been.

A virtual +1 to you. (My +1's don't do anything. Very sad. So you get information instead.)

Lightning Strike on weapons is 1.5% application probability, and is indeed 20d20+400 electrical damage.

Thanks for the confirmation!

I'd actually really like to see a write-up for Disintegration, which leads me to...

I was just talking about Disintegration with etelan, actually. I don't happen to have or want any of the weapons that have Disintegration, so for now I'm making do with the Fleshshaper's Docent I held onto on my wizard for reasons long since forgotten. Having to use a guard makes for slower going, of course.

Curious, did you turn on Auto Attack and Record it for a few hours and go back through it as you got time or did you just do it all at once?

I did it here and there; waiting for groups to fill, waiting for guildies to log in, etc. I don't have any video recording software.

How much time did it take to work this up? What server are you on? Can people donate research grants to keep you at the Dummy and calculator instead of raiding, or ingredients to get the various proc's crafted? I'm thinking having solid numbers for the proc-rates on a lot of these traits would be very useful for planning out new gearsets, especially the proc heavy alchemical weapons.

Also handy would be knowing the chances of the Fabricator Bracers 'proc.

It took about a week, but without Eladrin's confirmation it would probably have taken about another week to really nail down the proc rate. I am happy to accept commissions, but I want to stress that I'm not super rich, so I really need everything from the ground up. For the aforementioned Disintegration GS weapon, that would work out to:

2 husk, 2 pebbles, 3 funk, 1 petal, 1 or 2 fungus, 3 or 2 twig
small: 2 arrow, 2 bone, 2 chain, 2 scale, 3 shrapnel, 1 stone
medium: 2 arrow, 1 bone, 2 chain, 2 scale, 3 shrapnel, 2 stone
large: 4 arrow, 3 bone, 4 chain, 4 scale, 6 shrapnel, 3 stone

I certainly don't expect anyone to plunk down that many ingredients. With that in mind, if people are interested in commissioning research on a given effect, send whatever ingredients you'd like to Serafynn on Argonnessen. I'll do my level best to turn it into a relevant GS weapon, and I'll be sure to mention your contributions in the next thread.

It also so happens that I picked up a pair of Fab Bracers a little while ago, and the proc rate I determined was 1.40% +/- 0.25%. My guess would be it's the same 1.5% as this.

[Hordo]

A virtual +1 to you. (My +1's don't do anything. Very sad. So you get information instead.)

Lightning Strike on weapons is 1.5% application probability, and is indeed 20d20+400 electrical damage.

I got him for you.

[Asmodeus451]

+1 rep.

now that i know the exact proc rate and damage, i can finally calc out which of my Gaxes is the better for trash (eAG verses Shock/Good/Shock Lit2)

[wax_on_wax_off]

This

Short Version

Process rate: 1.45% ± 0.30%
Average damage: 610

To my mind, the most likely candidate is 20d20 + 400.

Followed by this

A virtual +1 to you. (My +1's don't do anything. Very sad. So you get information instead.)

Lightning Strike on weapons is 1.5% application probability, and is indeed 20d20+400 electrical damage.

Is so full of win. +1 of course.

[Jandric]

A well earned +1 Kinerd!