Ranged FvS

[peetrs]

So I finally TRed my 1st character. In her 1st life she was pure ranger AA and I really ejoyed playing her (AA rocks!).

Since her 1st life was ranger, I want to keep her as ranged character. I also never rolled FvS, so I'd like to make an attempt to merge AA with FvS. The idea is to be AA and have access to divine DoT / AoEs and healing / buffing

The build is going to be 17 FvS / 2 Monk / 1 Ranger. 1st level Monk, then FvS up to level 6, lvl 7 Monk, lvl 8 Ranger, rest FvS. I should be able to become AA right at level 8.

Starting stats are: 15/16/12/10/16/10 (+1 tome in STR so far). All level increases are going to go to wis, to have at least somewhat good DCs on AoEs and CC.

Skills - Maxing Concentration and UMD. One in Tumble and few in Jump and Balance (going to pump these a bit with monk and ranger lvls).

But I'm still not sure what feats to take, my idea is:
lvl 1 - PB Shot, Thoughness
lvl 3 - Mental Thoughness
lvl 6 - WF: Ranged
lvl 7 - Zen Archery
lvl 9 - Rapid Shot
lvl 12 - Empower
lvl 15 - Manyshot
lvl 18 - Quicken

So what do you guys think about this feat selection?

[honkuimushi]

Don't have much to say about the feats, but I would say that since you're already giving up level 9 spells, you might as well take your second Ranger level for Rapid Shot. I would probably take Precise Shot for aggro control with the extra feat.

Also, since you will be Wis based and you're not taking Improved Precise Shot, I might lower your Dex a bit, especially if you're a half-elf. I think the highest Dex you need for feats is 13 and if you move Zen Archery up a bit, you won't miss the to hit. You will need some Dex for feats and Reflex saves, but I wouldn't spend more than a 1 to 1 point buy. More Str would help your damage.

Looking at your feats, it looks like you took Monk at first level. Don't do that-- start Ranger, it will give you 8 more skill points and Concentration, Jump, Spot, MS and HS are alll useful to this build and are Ranger class skills.

Finally, make sure you pick elf or half-elf, otherwise you won't be able to get AA.

[Luis_Velderve]

So I finally TRed my 1st character. In her 1st life she was pure ranger AA and I really ejoyed playing her (AA rocks!).

Since her 1st life was ranger, I want to keep her as ranged character. I also never rolled FvS, so I'd like to make an attempt to merge AA with FvS. The idea is to be AA and have access to divine DoT / AoEs and healing / buffing

The build is going to be 17 FvS / 2 Monk / 1 Ranger. 1st level Monk, then FvS up to level 6, lvl 7 Monk, lvl 8 Ranger, rest FvS. I should be able to become AA right at level 8.

Starting stats are: 15/16/12/10/16/10 (+1 tome in STR so far). All level increases are going to go to wis, to have at least somewhat good DCs on AoEs and CC.

Skills - Maxing Concentration and UMD. One in Tumble and few in Jump and Balance (going to pump these a bit with monk and ranger lvls).

But I'm still not sure what feats to take, my idea is:
lvl 1 - PB Shot, Thoughness
lvl 3 - Mental Thoughness
lvl 6 - WF: Ranged
lvl 7 - Zen Archery
lvl 9 - Rapid Shot
lvl 12 - Empower
lvl 15 - Manyshot
lvl 18 - Quicken

So what do you guys think about this feat selection?

Ok I know that you have a base character here however since you asked about it IMO check Divine Archer Builds, you can go elf or Helf and spell will be focused on those with no save and healing only ,bumping Wis and with the max Dex you can. Life enhancements line is a must. I decided to change IPS for Empower Healing but that me.

I can contribute with melee without sacrificing healing in any party (can be the only healer ). Having Past Live Ranger will help with damage so U should to it better. 18 FVS/1Ranger/1 WIZ

[peetrs]

I forgot to mention, of course she's an Elf.

I also didn't really mention goal I'm trying to achieve with this build. I'm trying to make supreme soloing goddess, because when she was pure ranger AA she was close to be such character (just needed more buffs and better self healing, but still she was able to solo DQ elite on lvl 15) and I still want to have any value in group.

And yes, this is just base character, it's pointless to discuss end game appearence, because that's pointless if the build is not solid and of course I have some juicy items in TR bank

Don't have much to say about the feats, but I would say that since you're already giving up level 9 spells, you might as well take your second Ranger level for Rapid Shot. I would probably take Precise Shot for aggro control with the extra feat.

Also, since you will be Wis based and you're not taking Improved Precise Shot, I might lower your Dex a bit, especially if you're a half-elf. I think the highest Dex you need for feats is 13 and if you move Zen Archery up a bit, you won't miss the to hit. You will need some Dex for feats and Reflex saves, but I wouldn't spend more than a 1 to 1 point buy. More Str would help your damage.

Looking at your feats, it looks like you took Monk at first level. Don't do that-- start Ranger, it will give you 8 more skill points and Concentration, Jump, Spot, MS and HS are alll useful to this build and are Ranger class skills.

Finally, make sure you pick elf or half-elf, otherwise you won't be able to get AA.

Yes, I was considering 2nd lvl of ranger, but I would have to sacrifice one of best FvS abilities, the Wings. Not gonna do that, it's just too good to not have it.

Regarding the Dex, I can't go lower then 15, because Manyshot requires base Dex 17. I'm also going to have Evasion, so solid ref save is must. I should have 24 STR with just +6 item and rage pot and I think that's not that bad.

Unfortunately I'm already lvl 3 now, so can't take ranger as 1st level ... nooby me! Anyway, I'm considering LR her if things won't work out as expected, so not gonna do same mistake again. Thanks for pointing this out!

Ok I know that you have a base character here however since you asked about it IMO check Divine Archer Builds, you can go elf or Helf and spell will be focused on those with no save and healing only ,bumping Wis and with the max Dex you can. Life enhancements line is a must. I decided to change IPS for Empower Healing but that me.

I can contribute with melee without sacrificing healing in any party (can be the only healer ). Having Past Live Ranger will help with damage so U should to it better. 18 FVS/1Ranger/1 WIZ

I checked the builds, but none suited my tastes. Yet, the thing I'm trying to achieve is to have nice wis, so DCs on those few spells with saves will be at least average, so it lands here and there. Sure, I'm going to take mostly buffs and heals, but I would also like to take DoT, Cometfall, Smite (my very favorite spell of DDO) and BB. No single target DPS spell, single target DPS is going to be the bow (and DoT).

If nothing else I'm going to have really good Will save :P

Anyway, I'm not going to melee on this character past level 8 (when she gets AA). Ok, I will have few melee weapons for the occasions where u need one (like dualwielded muchbanes and one S/B combo for shieldblock), but when she was ranger, I never had need to melee and I still did some crazy damage to stuff around.

Regarding the IPS, sure I'd like to have it, it's awsome. But I just can't see any way how to fit it in and not lose metamagics (and I'm going to need empower or maximise for Angel of Vengeance and Quicken is must).

[Luis_Velderve]

Ok I know that you have a base character here however since you asked about it IMO check Divine Archer Builds, you can go elf or Helf and spell will be focused on those with no save and healing only ,bumping Wis and with the max Dex you can. Life enhancements line is a must. I decided to change IPS for Empower Healing but that me.

I can contribute with melee (Error here Should say Ranged DPS) without sacrificing healing in any party (can be the only healer ). Having Past Live Ranger will help with damage so U should to it better. 18 FVS/1Ranger/1 WIZ

Since you like your Ranger AA consider a long term project of 3TR ranger, you will get +6 ranged damage and you can place STR points somewhere else.

Shintao Set for +2 Hit/Damage +6 CON ,+15 concentration ,+6 Wis and +1 exceptional STR


Helf Rogue Dillante will provide 3d6 SD, Epic Brawling Gloves to add more SD and human versatility for burst damage/to hit