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    Default popup when low on spell components

    similar to this dialog:



    Have one that appears when you are low (e.g. fewer than 50) on spell components for a particular spell you have memorised.

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    Hey! That's a pretty good idea, imo. Gj!

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    No there is little enough immersion I dont want more dumbing down of the game dont need more simplification thank you very much.


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    /signed

    But an even better idea would be to remove spell compontents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaxeyu View Post
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    But an even better idea would be to remove spell compontents.
    cant agree with this


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uska View Post
    cant agree with this
    How does stocking up with 2-3000 hen hearts do anything positive for immersion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaxeyu View Post
    How does stocking up with 2-3000 hen hearts do anything positive for immersion?
    LMAO! Would need a mule train or a chicken ranch...

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    How is it immersive or fun to go to cast a spell like haste on your party and realize you are out of components?

    My issue with the "warning" is a technical one, as the game has to keep track of each stack in relation to the others. If I have 3 stacks and one is getting low, the game has to do constant checks of my inventory to make sure that the others still exist.

    There is precedence in Pen and Paper for not tracking spell components with a "negligible cost."

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    Don’t bother to keep track of material components with negligible cost. Assume you have all you need as long as you have your spell component pouch.
    To me, the basic components in this game fall under that category, while the ones that have a higher cost (stoneskin, death pact, create undead, etc.) are the ones we should have to track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaxeyu View Post
    But an even better idea would be to remove spell compontents.
    This /signed.

    At the moment, spell components add nothing to the game. Useless mechanics/rules should be either removed or fixed to such that affect distinctly on the gaming experience.


    ...to useless game mechanics!
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    Default spell Components pop-up...add thieves' tools to the list

    I'd like to see it with 10 or less thieve's tools as well. How about stacks of 1000, like every other component?

    It's not less immersive. It should be a popup when you cast a spell.

    Fireballs casts Wall of Fire.
    Popup, "You only have 34 level 4 spell components left!"

    It represents the character noticing that they are nearly out of spell components when they reach into their bags to get the next one. Otherwise we are oblivious.

    Here is why this won't be added: Turbine makes $$ when we are lazy and forget to check these. Mid quest, the only way to get them is to buy them from the DDO Store. I don't fault them for this, they have to make $$ to keep the game running, but it won't be high on the priority list. The incentives are backwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rheebus View Post
    I'd like to see it with 10 or less thieve's tools as well. How about stacks of 1000, like every other component?

    It's not less immersive. It should be a popup when you cast a spell.

    Fireballs casts Wall of Fire.
    Popup, "You only have 34 level 4 spell components left!"

    It represents the character noticing that they are nearly out of spell components when they reach into their bags to get the next one. Otherwise we are oblivious.

    Here is why this won't be added: Turbine makes $$ when we are lazy and forget to check these. Mid quest, the only way to get them is to buy them from the DDO Store. I don't fault them for this, they have to make $$ to keep the game running, but it won't be high on the priority list. The incentives are backwards.
    it is less immersive you should keep track of stuff yourself if its automatic there is no immerrsion and yes we used compents in pnp starting in 78 when the first phb came out.


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    Default Great suggestion!

    /signed! Would be very nice.

    As far as immersion? when I buy 10k bat guano and sulfur, I do so so that I can NOT run out for awhile. It is a deliberate measure to be able to quest longer, without a constant need to have to remember to get the components every time I decide to join groups.

    What would be nice as well as the OP suggestion, is the ability to add more than 10 components at a time to a stack, and increase the max number of pots, components, and ALL basic necessities for all classes. Can only buy 1 stack, adding 1 at a time of pots, when you need to grab 7 or 8 stacks of various pots. Same goes for all other mats/components/scrolls/etc.

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    Default While you hold your breath

    In the meantime, a simple solution is to make a hot bar and fill it with reagents, then put it vertical and out of the way.

    This will be a clear and visual reminder of all of your spell components.

    Works for most things: 10 units on the hot bar, 9 levels + stoneskin. Some components, like the one for raise undead, in my opinion are not used enough to warrant a space on the bar.

    hope this helps.

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    No real point to having them in this game. They don't serve the same purpose as they do in PnP.

    All they do is cause you to walk to house J every couple of weeks to buy stacks of items that you put on the last page of your inventory and forget about for awhile.

    But since they wont take them out of the game, a warning would be ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0cksteady View Post
    No real point to having them in this game. They don't serve the same purpose as they do in PnP.

    All they do is cause you to walk to house J every couple of weeks to buy stacks of items that you put on the last page of your inventory and forget about for awhile.

    But since they wont take them out of the game, a warning would be ok.

    This.

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    A trick I like to do is hotbar all my spell componets so I can see them for myself.

    You can see them right there!
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    IMO the whole PnP spell system is pretty bad. I've never really liked.

    Having another quickslot bar on my small screen is annoying. If the components got removed casters would be even better :P

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